Opinion of US Presidents Series: Abraham Lincoln through James A. Garfield
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Abraham Lincoln: FF
 
#2
Abraham Lincoln: HP
 
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Andrew Johnson: FF
 
#4
Andrew Johnson: HP
 
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Ulysses S. Grant: FF
 
#6
Ulysses S. Grant: HP
 
#7
Rutherford B. Hayes: FF
 
#8
Rutherford B. Hayes: HP
 
#9
James A. Garfield: FF
 
#10
James A. Garfield: HP
 
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« on: July 30, 2016, 01:27:49 PM »
« edited: August 04, 2016, 11:23:49 AM by TDAS04 »

Lincoln: The Greatest
Johnson: Terrible
Grant: Massive FF
Hayes: Mild FF
Garfield: FF

Prior FF Results
George Washington: 81.8%
John Adams: 55.8%
Thomas Jefferson: 75%
James Madison: 76.2%
James Monroe: 72.7%
John Quincy Adams: 76.4%
Andrew Jackson 45.3%
Martin Van Buren 70.4%
William H. Harrison 51%
John Tyler: 28.3%
James K. Polk: 51.1%
Zachary Taylor: 75.6%
Millard Fillmore: 8.7%
Franklin Pierce: 8.9%
James Buchanan: 8.3%
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2016, 01:48:04 PM »

All FF except Johnson, who's one of the worst presidents in history.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2016, 02:30:12 PM »

since we are only looking at presidents only Lincoln is FF , while the rest were hp as the rest were medicore or worse
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2016, 04:45:43 PM »

All HP but Grant and Lincoln.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2016, 11:48:51 PM »

Lincoln/Grant/Hays are FF's, Johnson is an HP, Garfield gets an incomplete.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2016, 11:59:52 PM »

Lincoln obvious strong FF.
Grant moderate FF.
Hayes and Garfield mixed.
Johnson obvious HP.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2016, 12:57:03 AM »

All FF except Johnson, who's one of the worst presidents in history.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2016, 04:53:59 AM »

All FFs except Andy.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2016, 06:23:30 AM »

Lincoln: Huge FF
Johnson: HP, but I do like his roots, and some aspects of his character
Grant: A good president, and supporter of civil rights, FF.
Hayes: HP, corrupt, don't see any positive light on his presidency.
Garfield: Don't think he did a lot, lean HP.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2016, 06:52:37 AM »

Lincoln HP
Johnson FF
Grant HP
Hayes FF
Garfield FF
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2016, 10:50:56 AM »

Lincoln HP
Johnson FF
Grant HP
Hayes FF
Garfield FF

Oh, I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this...
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2016, 10:56:38 AM »

Lincoln HP
Johnson FF
Grant HP
Hayes FF
Garfield FF

Oh, I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this...
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2016, 02:34:56 PM »

Lincoln and Grant are obviously freedom fighters.
Garfield wasn't president long enough for an informed decision, but his record before that classifies him as FF.
Johnson is an HP for his effort to subvert reconstruction as well as for general incompetence.\
Hayes is an HP for making a corrupt bargain.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2016, 02:34:59 PM »

All FF except Johnson, who's one of the worst presidents in history.
This, pretty much.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2016, 11:49:53 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2016, 11:56:52 AM »

How does Hayes, the guy who let the Klan completely take over the south and who murdered striking workers, have a positive rating? What redeeming qualities does he have that people are basing their FF votes on? Genuinely curious.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2016, 12:19:49 PM »

How does Hayes, the guy who let the Klan completely take over the south and who murdered striking workers, have a positive rating? What redeeming qualities does he have that people are basing their FF votes on? Genuinely curious.

Me too, but how can you possibly actually believe that Grant's GOP was this leftist party as you've insinuated in the past, and the magically the next decade was everything wrong with American conservatism?  Things simply don't shift that quickly.

Also, Ljube, I'd still absolutely LOVE to hear why Andrew Johnson was a better President than Abraham Lincoln, LOL.
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2016, 04:38:59 PM »

The exact same number of people have Johnson as an FF who have Lincoln as an HP. Coincidence?
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2016, 04:44:52 PM »

All FF except Johnson, who's one of the worst presidents in history.
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2016, 04:47:02 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2016, 04:35:06 AM »

How does Hayes, the guy who let the Klan completely take over the south and who murdered striking workers, have a positive rating? What redeeming qualities does he have that people are basing their FF votes on? Genuinely curious.

Me too, but how can you possibly actually believe that Grant's GOP was this leftist party as you've insinuated in the past, and the magically the next decade was everything wrong with American conservatism?  Things simply don't shift that quickly.

Also, Ljube, I'd still absolutely LOVE to hear why Andrew Johnson was a better President than Abraham Lincoln, LOL.

As the GOP was to the left of the democrats, until about 1896.
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2016, 09:01:04 AM »

All FF except Johnson, who's one of the worst presidents in history.
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2016, 12:02:51 PM »

Lincoln is FF, Johnson is HP, Grant is FF, Hayes is HP, Garfield is FF.
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2016, 12:56:28 PM »

How does Hayes, the guy who let the Klan completely take over the south and who murdered striking workers, have a positive rating? What redeeming qualities does he have that people are basing their FF votes on? Genuinely curious.

Me too, but how can you possibly actually believe that Grant's GOP was this leftist party as you've insinuated in the past, and the magically the next decade was everything wrong with American conservatism?  Things simply don't shift that quickly.

Also, Ljube, I'd still absolutely LOVE to hear why Andrew Johnson was a better President than Abraham Lincoln, LOL.

As the GOP was to the left of the democrats, until about 1896.

Highly, highly, highly debatable.  Immigration?  GOP was clearly to the right.  Moral issues like prohibition?  GOP was clearly to the right.  Corporate favoritism?  I'd say the GOP is clearly to the right again.  One could say opposing slavery was "liberal" (though I fundamentally reject such a simplistic classification, as many arguments defending slavery drew upon the "scientifically proven" inferiority of Blacks and much of the steam for the earliest serious abolitionist movements came from some of the most conservative religious denominations like the Quakers), but even then that's just one issue.  If we're going to go ahead and equate enlightened racial views with liberalism, then I'd say the GOP's blatant racism toward Irish and Italian immigrants (who were not considered White by many Americas well into the early 20th Century) kind of cancels out its "liberal" views on Black civil rights (and vice versa for the Democrats).

Really, it's just messy to use a simple left-right scale for pre-New Deal politics for issues that aren't kind of timeless (class issues, immigration, etc.).
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2016, 01:16:05 PM »

Lincoln, Grant, and Garfield are FFs.
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