What if the civil war broke out in 1850?
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« on: August 02, 2016, 02:21:40 PM »

This is, I think, a very interesting question but just barely discussed: What if President Zachary Taylor had not died in 1850? Likely he would have vetoed the compromise of 1850 what could have led to seccession and a civil war like it did ten years later. How could it have ended? After how many years? Keep in mind that north mainly won the civil war because of a higher grade of industrialization a better infrastructure (railways in particular).
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 05:32:21 PM »

The North in 1860 had a 2-1 advantage in manpower and a 3-1 advantage when excluding the slave population in the South. The North in 1860 had an enormous advantage in both having a larger base of population to draw from but also a much larger industrial base. Pennsylvania by itself had a greater industrial output then the entire South during the civil war. But that was in 1860, not 1850.

If the war had broken out 10 years earlier it would benefit the South. Today you have a booming sun belt and a declining rust belt, in the 19th century the opposite was the case. The North was booming , around 90% of the immigrants settled in the North. The North had a much larger population growth than the South as a result, which means more available soldiers or factory workers in case of war. The South was backward and agrarian which drew less immigrants as a result. The North would still win a 1850 civil war but it would have less of a population and industrial advantage relative to the South. Maybe the war would have taken 5-6 years instead of 4 and been much bloodier as well.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2016, 07:07:48 PM »

Taylor had far more military experience than Lincoln or Grant. I'd say Taylor wins the year in about four and a half years. More recently experienced regulars from the Mexican-American War may very well help turn the tide. If Sam Houston and Robert E. Lee keep Texas and Virginia from seceding, even Kentucky and Missouri seceding wouldn't make up for it. The popular sentiment would encourage moral among the regulars, and I imagine that Taylor himself may resign the Presidency to help lead the war. At the very least he would probably be a much better military strategist than Lincoln.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 10:12:50 PM »

Taylor had far more military experience than Lincoln or Grant. I'd say Taylor wins the year in about four and a half years. More recently experienced regulars from the Mexican-American War may very well help turn the tide. If Sam Houston and Robert E. Lee keep Texas and Virginia from seceding, even Kentucky and Missouri seceding wouldn't make up for it. The popular sentiment would encourage moral among the regulars, and I imagine that Taylor himself may resign the Presidency to help lead the war. At the very least he would probably be a much better military strategist than Lincoln.
The majority of U.S. troops in the Mexican-American War were Southern volunteers, not regulars. That said, with Abolitionist sentiment far weaker, you wouldn't get as much of the South to secede.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 12:54:45 AM »

It might have settled the Union question earlier, but delayed the abolition of slavery.
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