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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2016, 06:05:06 pm »

Comment section on the article is hilarious:

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Another rigged liberal poll

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Fox has its head up hillary's bum and this poll smells like it.

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President   Thomas Jefferson   refused  to   pay   tribute   to    Islamic   Terrorists.....    President    OBAMA,   pays   $400   Million    Dollars   to   Islamic   Terrorists.....

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it amazes really , just read an article when anti-hillary movies, books and apparel are sky high,  most comments I have read on all sites thrash her YET she is winning in the polls.  HOW can that be??

Fox Poll is liberal? Fox in the tank for Clinton? Are you joking me?

Most comments on all sites Breitbart, right-wing blogs and fringe conservative news sites I read all thrash her. How is this possible?! Really? REALLY?

Sometimes it is hard to accept how utterly stupid large swathes of America is in regards to politics. I mean for gods sakes, that last comment is probably the best example of how some people have lived in a political bubble for so long that they are not even aware that there is another side of America (which is larger) that really dislikes their side.
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2016, 06:06:49 pm »

This is why social media is so terrible, it just allows people to create and perpetuate their bubbles. The number of people who seemed so shocked that people had different views to themselves and their friends...
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2016, 06:08:00 pm »

This is why social media is so terrible, it just allows people to create and perpetuate their bubbles. The number of people who seemed so shocked that people had different views to themselves and their friends...

Definitely agree. The internet isn't helping political polarization, it's actually making it worse in a lot of ways.
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2016, 06:14:07 pm »

So if I read it correctly Fox has a "B" grade for polling from Nate Silver/538?

What are the trends from the last Fox national poll?
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2016, 06:19:31 pm »

So if I read it correctly Fox has a "B" grade for polling from Nate Silver/538?

What are the trends from the last Fox national poll?

The last national Fox poll was from late June (as far as I can see) and had Clinton +6 in the two-way and +5 in the four-way. Basically in line with the trends at the time.
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« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2016, 06:22:05 pm »

So if I read it correctly Fox has a "B" grade for polling from Nate Silver/538?

What are the trends from the last Fox national poll?

They also have an R bias, so this poll is making me really happy.
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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2016, 06:49:47 pm »

GOP headquarters today:

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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2016, 07:08:31 pm »

If he can't stop with the stupid attacks he is either trying to lose or has a serious personality disorder.

Of course we ALL know that the correct answer is that he has "a serious personality disorder."
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« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2016, 07:16:53 pm »

So if I read it correctly Fox has a "B" grade for polling from Nate Silver/538?

What are the trends from the last Fox national poll?

They also have an R bias, so this poll is making me really happy.

No, you're probably thinking of Fox / Opinion Research, which is R+0.5 and a B grade at 538.  This poll is from Fox / Anderson Robbins Research / Shaw & Company Research, which is D+0.4 with an A grade.
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« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2016, 07:17:20 pm »

Comment section on the article is hilarious:

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Another rigged liberal poll

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Fox has its head up hillary's bum and this poll smells like it.

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President   Thomas Jefferson   refused  to   pay   tribute   to    Islamic   Terrorists.....    President    OBAMA,   pays   $400   Million    Dollars   to   Islamic   Terrorists.....

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it amazes really , just read an article when anti-hillary movies, books and apparel are sky high,  most comments I have read on all sites thrash her YET she is winning in the polls.  HOW can that be??

Fox Poll is liberal? Fox in the tank for Clinton? Are you joking me?
Most comments on all sites Breitbart, right-wing blogs and fringe conservative news sites I read all thrash her. How is this possible?! Really? REALLY?
Sometimes it is hard to accept how utterly stupid large swathes of America is in regards to politics. I mean for gods sakes, that last comment is probably the best example of how some people have lived in a political bubble for so long that they are not even aware that there is another side of America (which is larger) that really dislikes their side.

I'm certain that "the last comment" (which you are pointing to) was from someone in the "poorly educated" category.
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« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2016, 07:26:13 pm »

Why does Fox do three way when the standard elsewhere is 2 way/4 way? The weird third party polling is really annoying this cycle and I wish a clearer picture would emerge about what's going on there. I would not be surprised if Johnson is inflated by a couple extra percent if the Stein supporters picked him as an "other."
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« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2016, 07:45:32 pm »

Why does Fox do three way when the standard elsewhere is 2 way/4 way? The weird third party polling is really annoying this cycle and I wish a clearer picture would emerge about what's going on there. I would not be surprised if Johnson is inflated by a couple extra percent if the Stein supporters picked him as an "other."
And I wouldn't be surprised if Johnsin is inflated by shy Clinton/Trump supporters.
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« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2016, 07:59:01 pm »

Obama led the RCP average by about 4 points after the conventions in 2012, some of his highest leads in an election that never got beyond a tiny range.

Hillary is now at 5.1 points and climbing.

BEAUTIFUL POLLING LEADS
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« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2016, 08:22:12 pm »

I wonder how long it takes for Republican Clear Politics to enter this into their system.

Obama led the RCP average by about 4 points after the conventions in 2012, some of his highest leads in an election that never got beyond a tiny range.
Hillary is now at 5.1 points and climbing.
BEAUTIFUL POLLING LEADS

Very nice indeed !
I believe that new polls released within the next 1 or 2 weeks, will drive that number a little bit higher
Maxwell, curious ..... Why do you refer to RCP as "Republican Clear Politics" ?
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« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2016, 08:43:22 pm »

The RCP average currently has nine polls, but four of them include data from during the DNC. If you look at just the five purely post DNC polls you get a 2-way average of Clinton 48.8 and Trump 42.2, or a 6.6 point lead. So she may have a bit more room to grow.

Right now it isn't clear if Clinton DNC bump will fade a bit as bumps usually do or if it will be sustained due to the Khan and other stories hurting Trump. But right now it is hard to imagine Clinton losing at least a small lead any time before the first debate, unless there is some big event that hurts Clinton or helps Trump.
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« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2016, 09:27:55 pm »

Ayyyyy lmao
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« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2016, 11:49:27 pm »

Beautiful poll!
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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2016, 04:13:19 am »

For all the flack Fox News gets, they've always struck me as having a pretty solid polling operation
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2016, 04:15:18 am »

Beautiful poll!

Her lead yes, butI'd like to see her around or above 50%.
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2016, 02:54:30 pm »

There was an interesting moment on Thursday on The Greta show on Fox where she had Karl Rove on and she started to unskew the Fox poll claiming that it can't be right due to crowd sizes for Trump. And amazingly, Karl was having none of it...
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Walter Mondale, Bob Dole, George McGovern, and William Jennings Bryan all drew large enthusiastic crowds in the final stages of their presidential bids, Rove said, and they all lost.

"There's a difference between who shows up at a rally and who turns out to vote," Rove said, "and right today, I wouldn't be betting that all of those polls showing — I wouldn't bet the Fox News poll is wrong that says he's 10 points down. I wouldn't bet that the NBC poll that has him 9 down is wrong."
http://theweek.com/speedreads/641174/karl-rove-swats-down-idea-that-donald-trumps-terrible-poll-numbers-are-skewed
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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2016, 03:12:58 pm »

There was an interesting moment on Thursday on The Greta show on Fox where she had Karl Rove on and she started to unskew the Fox poll claiming that it can't be right due to crowd sizes for Trump. And amazingly, Karl was having none of it...
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Walter Mondale, Bob Dole, George McGovern, and William Jennings Bryan all drew large enthusiastic crowds in the final stages of their presidential bids, Rove said, and they all lost.

"There's a difference between who shows up at a rally and who turns out to vote," Rove said, "and right today, I wouldn't be betting that all of those polls showing — I wouldn't bet the Fox News poll is wrong that says he's 10 points down. I wouldn't bet that the NBC poll that has him 9 down is wrong."
http://theweek.com/speedreads/641174/karl-rove-swats-down-idea-that-donald-trumps-terrible-poll-numbers-are-skewed
Unlike many Republicans, it seems that Karl Rove has learned the lessons of 2012.
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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2016, 04:09:44 pm »

There was an interesting moment on Thursday on The Greta show on Fox where she had Karl Rove on and she started to unskew the Fox poll claiming that it can't be right due to crowd sizes for Trump. And amazingly, Karl was having none of it...
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Walter Mondale, Bob Dole, George McGovern, and William Jennings Bryan all drew large enthusiastic crowds in the final stages of their presidential bids, Rove said, and they all lost.

"There's a difference between who shows up at a rally and who turns out to vote," Rove said, "and right today, I wouldn't be betting that all of those polls showing — I wouldn't bet the Fox News poll is wrong that says he's 10 points down. I wouldn't bet that the NBC poll that has him 9 down is wrong."
http://theweek.com/speedreads/641174/karl-rove-swats-down-idea-that-donald-trumps-terrible-poll-numbers-are-skewed

Well damn, I truly have seen it all.
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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2016, 10:11:30 pm »

The way things are going, unless RNC dumps Trump soon, in a month or so we will be having serious discussions if Trump can win ANY states.
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« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2016, 09:47:43 am »

Among Blacks in the 3-Way:
Clinton - 85%
Johnson - 7%
Trump - 1%

     Wow, that is brutal.

A very special relationship!
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