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« on: August 13, 2016, 10:28:24 AM »

This issue brings out my libertarian side, and I think it will pass in all except Florida where it needs to hit 69%.

60% is the threshold. Morgan's initiative got 57.xx% in 2014 with a more conservative electorate, so it should pass this year. He made changes to alleviate lines of attack the measure's opponents were using, and support for the measure is very high, which will undoubtedly be aided by increased Democratic turnout.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 01:06:30 PM »

It's pretty ridiculous that the only way to legalize pot through referenda is to embed it in state constitutions.  It sounds like Colorado is the only state that's handling this issue the right way.

Many of these states also allow statute initiatives, but they are generally avoided because they don't want lawmakers weakening or repealing their stuff. It's a legitimate concern. Honestly, I don't think lawmakers yet deserve the benefit of the doubt to not do things like that, especially in Arizona. For the record though, in California, even a state statute enacted by initiative can't be modified by the legislature without approval from voters.

My thoughts are this: Lawmakers see a groundswell of legalization initiatives, some in their own states, and they don't act themselves. They could just legalize it themselves before initiatives gets approved and thus keep control over the process while negating the point of an initiative. But alas, they didn't because they are spineless and/or still clinging to Reefer Madness-based beliefs.

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 02:04:35 PM »

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-ballot-mistake-marijuana-missing-20161019-story.html

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This better be an issue only affecting a small number of people, otherwise this is going to be a mess of a situation.
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2016, 12:01:36 PM »

If a million bucks is all he is spending in some states, then he's 99% likely not going to sway enough votes to tank the initiative(s). Things have changed a lot over the past 6 years, and with a supermajority now believing in legalization, one can't change that many minds with what amounts to pocket change from Adelson's greasy pants.

This isn't like some relatively unknown candidate running in some obscure race. Opinions about marijuana have become more and more ingrained in the public consciousness and the lies perpetuated for decades have steadily unraveled since the turn of the century.

Given how much support comes from Millennials, this issue has almost become a symbol of the transfer of influence from one generation to the next.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2016, 12:58:53 PM »

Fla. election official sued over potential ‘cataclysmic’ medical-marijuana ballot error

http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2016/10/norml-sues-over-missing-medical-marijuana-item-on-mailed-ballots-in-broward-county-106591

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This could be a big deal. Absentee ballots sent to residents in Broward County, one of Med. Marijuana's best counties, magically don't have the Amendment 2 question.

I'm now worried that when early voting starts, even the in-person ballots could have issues in Broward or possibly elsewhere. This county in particular seems to be completely incompetent in terms of handling elections.

At any rate, they need to send people new ballots, even if it just for Amendment 2. I can't see how this would be resolved any other way.
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