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« on: August 23, 2016, 01:38:18 pm »
« edited: August 23, 2016, 01:40:08 pm by TN volunteer »

General

Marco Rubio (R, inc.): 46%
Patrick Murphy (D): 38%

Marco Rubio (R, inc.): 47%
Alan Grayson (D): 34%

Primaries

Marco Rubio: 68%
Carlos Beruff: 14%
Others: 6%

Patrick Murphy: 47%
Alan Grayson: 17%
Others: 15%

The same (highly respected!!!1) Saint Leo poll has Clinton up 14 in FL.

DOMINATING!

http://polls.saintleo.edu/saint-leo-poll-shows-rubio-running-strong-in-senate-race-better-than-trump-is-running-on-top-of-the-gop-ticket-in-florida/
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2016, 01:42:07 pm »

Glad to see that Murphy has a 30 point lead in the Primary!!
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2016, 01:49:28 pm »

Yuck, Privlidged Patrick. At least El Marco is up big in his primary, I can stop worrying about it. And if Rubio is over performing Trumo by 22! I can move this one from Tilt R to Lean R.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2016, 02:05:53 pm »

Don't trust Senate polls until after the primaries. Look what happened with Toomey in Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2016, 02:25:27 pm »

Obviously, Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart will win by more than 20, even if Trump gets crushed in Florida! (But I'm going to ignore the presidential poll, since its results aren't as much to my liking and don't line up with my view of reality) Split ticketing hasn't gone down at all, so I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk, Toomey, Ayotte, and Heck also win by more than 20, even if Trump loses all of those states by double digits. A Republican landslide in the Senate and House is still possible even if Hillary wins in a landslide!
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 02:48:31 pm »

But I'm going to ignore the presidential poll, since its results aren't as much to my liking and don't line up with my view of reality

The "highly respected" and "Dominating" remarks were meant to be sarcastic. Saint Leo is obviously junk, but since this poll was posted on the 2016 board, there is no reason not to post it here as well. Not going to respond to the rest of your comment, which is hyperbole. Looks like El Marco is making you nervous. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2016, 02:53:33 pm »

Don't trust Senate polls until after the primaries. Look what happened with Toomey in Pennsylvania.

B-b-but McGinty is a bad candidate! There's no way Toomey can lose.

Same thing with Murphy. We'll see how long Little Marco can avoid the wrath of Trump.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2016, 02:54:49 pm »

Will Little Marco do any joint rallies with Trump in Florida as we get closer to Election Day?
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2016, 03:02:06 pm »

But I'm going to ignore the presidential poll, since its results aren't as much to my liking and don't line up with my view of reality

The "highly respected" and "Dominating" remarks were meant to be sarcastic. Saint Leo is obviously junk, but since this poll was posted on the 2016 board, there is no reason not to post it here as well. Not going to respond to the rest of your comment, which is hyperbole. Looks like El Marco is making you nervous. Wink

I'm just showing you what a strawman looks like from the other side. Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart might win, but that doesn't make him less of an empty opportunist. It should be obvious to anyone why he actually had a "change of heart" and decided to run for re-election after all.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2016, 03:04:24 pm »

It should be obvious to anyone why he actually had a "change of heart" and decided to run for re-election after all.

The same is true of the pathetic Evan Bayh, though.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2016, 03:10:05 pm »

It should be obvious to anyone why he actually had a "change of heart" and decided to run for re-election after all.

The same is true of the pathetic Evan Bayh, though.

I don't hype up Bayh as some saint, though. I'm not a big fan of his, I just happen to be (somewhat) ideologically closer to him than Young.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2016, 05:27:38 pm »

It should be obvious to anyone why he actually had a "change of heart" and decided to run for re-election after all.

The same is true of the pathetic Evan Bayh, though.

I don't hype up Bayh as some saint, though. I'm not a big fan of his, I just happen to be (somewhat) ideologically closer to him than Young.

Pretty much this. Both Rubio and Bayh are hacks, although Rubio is on my team and I really like Todd Young. I also think split tickets will increase a lot this year although obviously not as much as this poll shows.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2016, 07:05:29 am »

Obviously, Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart will win by more than 20, even if Trump gets crushed in Florida! (But I'm going to ignore the presidential poll, since its results aren't as much to my liking and don't line up with my view of reality) Split ticketing hasn't gone down at all, so I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk, Toomey, Ayotte, and Heck also win by more than 20, even if Trump loses all of those states by double digits. A Republican landslide in the Senate and House is still possible even if Hillary wins in a landslide!

No, here's how the unskewing works- the presidential poll is clearly off by at least 10, maybe 15-20, so that means that the sample is way too Democratic and Rubio is probably up close to 30!!
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2016, 11:50:15 am »

It should be obvious to anyone why he actually had a "change of heart" and decided to run for re-election after all.

The same is true of the pathetic Evan Bayh, though.

I don't hype up Bayh as some saint, though. I'm not a big fan of his, I just happen to be (somewhat) ideologically closer to him than Young.

Pretty much this. Both Rubio and Bayh are hacks, although Rubio is on my team and I really like Todd Young. I also think split tickets will increase a lot this year although obviously not as much as this poll shows.

Only insofar as the act of running for office under a party banner makes you a hack for that party.

Obviously, Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart will win by more than 20, even if Trump gets crushed in Florida! (But I'm going to ignore the presidential poll, since its results aren't as much to my liking and don't line up with my view of reality) Split ticketing hasn't gone down at all, so I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk, Toomey, Ayotte, and Heck also win by more than 20, even if Trump loses all of those states by double digits. A Republican landslide in the Senate and House is still possible even if Hillary wins in a landslide!

Why don't you unskew some more polls for us?
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2016, 12:30:42 pm »

Obviously, Flawless Beautiful Marco Purple heart Purple heart Purple heart will win by more than 20, even if Trump gets crushed in Florida! (But I'm going to ignore the presidential poll, since its results aren't as much to my liking and don't line up with my view of reality) Split ticketing hasn't gone down at all, so I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk, Toomey, Ayotte, and Heck also win by more than 20, even if Trump loses all of those states by double digits. A Republican landslide in the Senate and House is still possible even if Hillary wins in a landslide!

Why don't you unskew some more polls for us?

Nah, unskewing costs too much time and dignity.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2016, 12:34:40 pm »

also wow that primary margin. Murphy heading for a healthy victory!
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2016, 01:21:57 pm »

Well, I'm glad to see that Murphy is winning the primary by a large margin. I always thought that Murphy would win the primary, but I have been nervous at times that Grayson would pull off a surprise victory in a low turnout primary. A week out from the election, it looks like Murphy and Rubio have their respective primaries in the bag.

As for the general election, I don't think people should count out Murphy yet, but Rubio is clearly the favorite. I do expect Rubio to win in November, but by less than 8 points. I think Rubio will win by something like 3 or 4%
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 03:10:49 pm »

Let's see what happens after the primary.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2016, 03:13:02 pm »

New Poll: Florida Senator by Other Source on 2016-08-18

Summary: D: 38%, R: 46%, I: 0%, U: 16%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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