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Erich Maria Remarque
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« on: August 29, 2016, 04:29:28 am »

Excuse me but since when Emerson polls became the gospel of truth?
These guys were among the worst during the primaries.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 05:43:40 am »

It's good that there is no ridiculously high "Undecided" number this time. Wish they would have polled a head to head contest.
Why is this good? There is, clearly, a high number of undeciders. A good poll should reflect it:-\
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 05:45:31 am »

I was bit worried and then I saw their poll in Michigan, only +5, not going to happen lol.
They seem to have a house effect +R 1-3
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 09:19:00 am »

They did, but for clients like Daily Kos. They were universally terrible.
Final pre-election Daily Kos/SEIU State of the Nation poll: Obama 50-48
5 november 2012. Not that bad.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 10:10:42 am »
« Edited: August 29, 2016, 10:12:22 am by LittleBigPlanet »

Excuse me but since when Emerson polls became the gospel of truth?
These guys were among the worst during the primaries.
I thought they were amongst the worst in the primaries, but at second glance, they were the second-most accurate (behind Gravis of all people) according to Bloomberg and a tick better than the other university pollers (Monmouth, Marist) and significantly better than Quinnipiac when it came to average margin.

They were among the worst. Just because the end results lined up doesnt mean they weren't releasing huge outliers leading into it.
Evidence?
Every pollster might have some outliers, but according to this article, they were OK.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2016, 12:21:35 am »

Honestly.... I think just bad samples. You can explain a lot with this or that, but to that degree?
Not just samples.  Literally everything samples,  landlines only,  reweighting seem... at least very very strange.
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