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« on: September 02, 2016, 10:20:25 AM »
« edited: September 02, 2016, 10:25:42 AM by Seriously? »

IBD/TIPP (2-way) Clinton +1
Clinton 44%
Trump 43%

IBD/TIPP (4-way) Tie
Trump 39%
Clinton 39%
Johnson 12%
Stein 3%

861 LV; August 26-September 1; MOE +/- 3.4%

Article: http://www.investors.com/politics/clinton-and-trump-are-tied-in-latest-ibdtipp-poll/
Crosstabs: http://www.investors.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/POSTING_Tables_Sep2016_Horserace_Registered_And-_Likely-Voters.pdf

A- 538 pollster. Most accurate pollster in the last 3 cycles. RV to LV switch for this poll.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2016, 10:22:12 AM »

This sort of national poll suggests some of the state polls may have been skewed.
Yes, indeed!
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2016, 10:22:47 AM »

Pretty amazing that Trump still doesn't lead when a poll finds them with identical favorability ratings. Not good for him at all.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2016, 10:24:10 AM »

Pretty amazing that Trump still doesn't lead when a poll finds them with identical favorability ratings. Not good for him at all.
Pretty amazing, that you fond this part most worthy to comment.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2016, 10:27:44 AM »

Compared to    JUL. 29-AUG. 4   IBD/TIPP, that was a RV poll

IBD/TIPP (2-way) Clinton +1 (-6)
Clinton 44% (-2)
Trump 43% (+4)

IBD/TIPP (4-way) Tie (-4)
Trump 39% (+0)
Clinton 39% (+4)
Johnson 12% (+0)
Stein 3%
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2016, 10:34:40 AM »

I’ve spend so many late nights spiking my whiskey with tears
Writing songs I thought nobody would hear
Praying to the stars for a second chance somehow
Well here I stand and my time is now!

I believe I’m gonna make it, little by little
This time I won’t break it, no, little by little
So come on, come on, come on, darling give it to me little by little
Believe me when I say to you, little by little! (Ulf Nillson, Swede Smiley)

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2016, 11:10:57 AM »

Jfern's favorite polling firm strikes again.
FTR, 10 days before the election of 2008 they showed Obama 1 point ahead of McCain.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2016, 11:34:18 AM »

Posting 3 times in a row, surely thats worth a scolding.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2016, 11:35:11 AM »

Posting 3 times in a row, surely thats worth a scolding.

Living in New Jersey, surely that's worth a scolding.
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2016, 11:36:44 AM »

Posting 3 times in a row, surely thats worth a scolding.

Living in New Jersey, surely that's worth a scolding.

I know how to edit my posts if I have something new to say.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2016, 11:39:03 AM »

Posting 3 times in a row, surely thats worth a scolding.
Stop go off-topic, troll Smiley

What do you thins about this poll? How junky is this poll according to your junkymeter?
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2016, 12:26:46 PM »
« Edited: September 02, 2016, 12:28:29 PM by LittleBigOctopus »

In weeks Dems were complaining about junky online polls. Now when we've got a bunch of those, there is no hack here commenting the results.

Wonder why! Huh

I wonder how
I wonder why
Yesterday you told me 'bout the blue blue sky
And all that I can see is just a yellow orange lemon-tree... Grin
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2016, 02:04:06 PM »

There is at least good news: this is a poll that possibly might be in the average for the debates and one of the polls I'd peg as being most favourable to Johnson (with both major candidates under 40% in the 4-way) and he still cannot reach 15%.  This is a good sign for Johnson not getting into the debates which would only further damage Clinton and further enable a Trump victory.  While it is comfortable that Trump still struggles to reach 40% in the 4-way polls; it is uncomfortable seeing Clinton dip down to that point as well.
Great news!
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2016, 05:14:36 PM »

Not good!
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2016, 05:39:24 PM »

Not good, but great! Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2016, 05:46:18 PM »

Fun crosstabs (no judgment as to how good/bad they are):

-Johnson at 33%, Trump at 17% among 18-24s
-Clinton down only 3 with 65+
-33 point gender gap
-Johnson getting 17% of males
-Clinton only down 15 with whites, and yet poll is tied. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2016, 05:47:22 PM »

Fun crosstabs (no judgment as to how good/bad they are):

-Johnson at 33%, Trump at 17% among 18-24s
-Clinton down only 3 with 65+
-33 point gender gap
-Johnson getting 17% of males
-Clinton only down 15 with whites, and yet poll is tied. Roll Eyes

yeah Trump has to be up over 20 with whites for it to be a win.
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2016, 06:11:34 PM »

I decided to do something I used to do earlier. I took the crosstabs and plugged it into demographic calculators to see what it got. (Assuming turnout is the same as 2012.)



Clinton 303/50.7%
Trump 235/47.6%
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2016, 06:18:57 PM »

Unskew the polls!
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2016, 06:43:13 PM »

Lol race is tied
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2016, 01:24:35 AM »

Lol literally the only person in America that can make an election against Trump close.
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