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Tender Branson
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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2016, 09:11:33 AM »

Morning Consult is definitely not a Trump-friendy pollster, lol.

The pro-Hillary clowns are just grasping at every straw now.

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Can I just point out, you lost your modding privileges because you were such a Bernie Clown so why dont people in glass houses...

I lost them because some ridiculous haters who think their own opinion is the only one who counts started a campaign against me. Not because I'm a "Bernie Clown" ...
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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2016, 09:14:45 AM »

Whatever. These national polls are kinda useless anyway, IMO it's the swing state polls that count.

But can we trust the swing state polls yet? Too many undecideds, plus nobody can be sure they are gaging Trump's support well.
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2016, 09:16:43 AM »

Morning Consult is definitely not a Trump-friendy pollster, lol.

The pro-Hillary clowns are just grasping at every straw now.

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Can I just point out, you lost your modding privileges because you were such a Bernie Clown so why dont people in glass houses...

I lost them because some ridiculous haters who think their own opinion is the only one who counts started a campaign against me. Not because I'm a "Bernie Clown" ...

I thought you resigned because you didn't have time to be mod any more.
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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2016, 09:21:14 AM »
« Edited: September 04, 2016, 09:23:21 AM by JerryArkansas »

Morning Consult is definitely not a Trump-friendy pollster, lol.

The pro-Hillary clowns are just grasping at every straw now.

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Can I just point out, you lost your modding privileges because you were such a Bernie Clown so why dont people in glass houses...

I lost them because some ridiculous haters who think their own opinion is the only one who counts started a campaign against me. Not because I'm a "Bernie Clown" ...
No, you lost them because you think saying things which are racist and thinking it was perfectly ok, not to mention the creepy things you seem to say to women on the forum.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2016, 09:34:03 AM »

Morning Consult is definitely not a Trump-friendy pollster, lol.

The pro-Hillary clowns are just grasping at every straw now.

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Can I just point out, you lost your modding privileges because you were such a Bernie Clown so why dont people in glass houses...

I lost them because some ridiculous haters who think their own opinion is the only one who counts started a campaign against me. Not because I'm a "Bernie Clown" ...
No, you lost them because you think saying things which are racist and thinking it was perfectly ok, not to mention the creepy things you seem to say to women on the forum.

What are you talking about ?

There are hardly any women on the Forum and I certainly did not say creepy things to them.

You probably are buying into the lies of the haters.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2016, 09:35:41 AM »

Morning Consult is definitely not a Trump-friendy pollster, lol.

The pro-Hillary clowns are just grasping at every straw now.

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Can I just point out, you lost your modding privileges because you were such a Bernie Clown so why dont people in glass houses...

I lost them because some ridiculous haters who think their own opinion is the only one who counts started a campaign against me. Not because I'm a "Bernie Clown" ...

I thought you resigned because you didn't have time to be mod any more.


Yes, I announced that I would resign after the election in November but DAVE also bought the lies of the Tender-haters and removed my mod rights after I posted my notice of resignation.
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2016, 09:41:35 AM »

Morning Consult is definitely not a Trump-friendy pollster, lol.

The pro-Hillary clowns are just grasping at every straw now.

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Can I just point out, you lost your modding privileges because you were such a Bernie Clown so why dont people in glass houses...

I lost them because some ridiculous haters who think their own opinion is the only one who counts started a campaign against me. Not because I'm a "Bernie Clown" ...
No, you lost them because you think saying things which are racist and thinking it was perfectly ok, not to mention the creepy things you seem to say to women on the forum.

What are you talking about ?

There are hardly any women on the Forum and I certainly did not say creepy things to them.

You probably are buying into the lies of the haters.
The fact that you think people are conspiring against you is sad.  People wanted you gone because you were bad.  You were biased to the point your moderation took a hit.  No one trusted that you could do a decent job.
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2016, 09:45:58 AM »
« Edited: September 04, 2016, 09:54:08 AM by Virginia »

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Do you realize her campaign's/Priorities' ad reservations for the fall have either not begun yet, or are literally just beginning now? Trump is going to get hit with about 150 million in ads over a 2~ month time span. To date, the collective Clinton effort has spent upwards of $130 million, which has been over 3 months or more now. I would also ask if you're aware that studies show ad spending is effective, but only in the short term, and its effects wear off? That means ad spending in June is no longer affecting poll numbers in August. You can define/soften up a candidate, but you can't perpetually keep them in a big hole like that.

And Tender, for all your doom and gloom about her (you do this in every thread, as if Hillary leading in basically 90%+ of the polls since the race began is her somehow failing hard), you must also remember, this is Hillary Clinton, the woman who has is a walking problem and has had a non-stop trickle of email stories, FBI reports, CF faux-scandals and more non-stop for over a year now, and yet she is still leading. You're acting like none of this is supposed to matter? Of course her freakin polls are going to go down. The fact that Trump can't break his low-40s ceiling despite this is testament enough to how non-competitive this race is. I'm sure another candidate with less issues, maybe Biden, would be doing better, but there isn't another candidate. There is Hillary, and she is winning, just like she has been winning all year. Ironically, she is winning "so much" that it is Trump who is sick of it Roll Eyes

But please, keep telling us how her still leading is somehow a problem and a failure of hers.
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2016, 09:51:21 AM »

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Do you realize her campaign's/Priorities' ad reservations for the fall have either not begun yet, or are literally just beginning now? Trump is going to get hit with about 150 million in ads over a 2~ month time span. To date, the collective Clinton effort has spent upwards of $130 million, which has been over 3 months or more now. I would also ask if you're aware that studies show ad spending is effective, but only in the short term, and its effects wear off? That means ad spending in June is no longer affecting poll numbers in August. You can define/soften up a candidate, but you can't keep perpetually keep them in a big hole like that.

And Tender, for all your doom and gloom about her (you do this in every thread, as if Hillary leading in basically 90%+ of the polls since the race began is her somehow failing hard), you must also remember, this is Hillary Clinton, the woman who has is a walking problem and has had a non-stop trickle of email stories, FBI reports, CF faux-scandals and more non-stop for over a year now, and yet she is still leading. You're acting like none of this is supposed to matter? Of course her freakin polls are going to go down. The fact that Trump can't break his low-40s ceiling despite this is testament enough to how non-competitive this race is. I'm sure another candidate with less issues, maybe Biden, would be doing better, but there isn't another candidate. There is Hillary, and she is winning, just like she has been winning all year. Ironically, she is winning "so much" that it is Trump who is sick of it Roll Eyes

But please, keep telling us how her still leading is somehow a problem and a failure of hers.
With Tender everything is bad.  He really needs to get a grip.  I guess Austria electing a literal fascist as president is sending him over the edge.
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2016, 10:30:34 AM »

Morning Consult is definitely not a Trump-friendy pollster, lol.

The pro-Hillary clowns are just grasping at every straw now.

She and her PACs are outspending this Trump douche by 200 million to 10 million in ads and everything she manages is a 2-point lead nationally and being a couple points ahead in the swing states (all well within the MoE of course).

Can I just point out, you lost your modding privileges because you were such a Bernie Clown so why dont people in glass houses...

I lost them because some ridiculous haters who think their own opinion is the only one who counts started a campaign against me. Not because I'm a "Bernie Clown" ...
No, you lost them because you think saying things which are racist and thinking it was perfectly ok, not to mention the creepy things you seem to say to women on the forum.

What are you talking about ?

There are hardly any women on the Forum and I certainly did not say creepy things to them.

You probably are buying into the lies of the haters.
The fact that you think people are conspiring against you is sad.  People wanted you gone because you were bad.  You were biased to the point your moderation took a hit.  No one trusted that you could do a decent job.

What a completely false and ignorant statement.

While I supported Bernie, I was never biased in my moderating. And I definitely always did a decent job over the past 8 or so years as mod.
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2016, 11:13:07 AM »

Tender Branson still desperately shilling for Trump! His transition into full-blown fascist seems to complete. Sad!
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« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2016, 11:15:44 AM »

Tender Branson still desperately shilling for Trump! His transition into full-blown fascist seems to complete. Sad!
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2016, 11:19:37 AM »

Tender Branson still desperately shilling for Trump! His transition into full-blown fascist seems to complete. Sad!

What a crap. I want Trump to lose the election (I have repeatedly said this). At the same time I just like to point out what a crappy candidate Hillary is.

Besides, since you are an ardent Erdogan-supporter Lief, please stop smearing me with being a "fascist".
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2016, 11:22:11 AM »

The Blaxicans crap was pretty much a revelation of what Tender Branson is.
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« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2016, 12:05:58 PM »

Tender Branson still desperately shilling for Trump! His transition into full-blown fascist seems to complete. Sad!

What a crap. I want Trump to lose the election (I have repeatedly said this). At the same time I just like to point out what a crappy candidate Hillary is.

Besides, since you are an ardent Erdogan-supporter Lief, please stop smearing me with being a "fascist".

Wow, more lies from Tender! He's really getting desperate now.
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« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2016, 12:10:16 PM »

Does not work with the You Gov polls at all.

Looks like two different elections right now. The state polls (save emerson) point to a solid Clinton win of about 5-7 points, maybe a bit bigger.

The national polls are all over the place and point to a resurgent Trump. Odd.
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« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2016, 12:24:30 PM »

They can both be true. Maybe both candidates are expanding the map. And we will have a WTF map this year. Or maybe if one of them collapses, we will have a mix of 1992/2008 map or an almost 1988 map when the other swing states decide to come home to be on the winning team.
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« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2016, 12:26:00 PM »

Does not work with the You Gov polls at all.

Looks like two different elections right now. The state polls (save emerson) point to a solid Clinton win of about 5-7 points, maybe a bit bigger.

The national polls are all over the place and point to a resurgent Trump. Odd.

When national polls fail, default to the state polls.
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« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2016, 01:22:44 PM »

Can we all jump off the Tender hate train now? Yeah I thought Tender was a bad mod with his biases and all but that is not the point of this thread. Going back to the topic at hand, im surprised Trump is not doing better in this poll given its bias towards him.
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