Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
March 22, 2019, 08:11:32 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Please delete your old personal messages.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Election Archive
| |-+  Election Archive
| | |-+  All Archived Boards
| | | |-+  2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls (Moderators: AndrewTX, Likely Voter)
| | | | |-+  VA-Emerson: Clinton +1
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3 Print
Author Topic: VA-Emerson: Clinton +1  (Read 2965 times)
IA more R than GA/TX/OH/FL
IndyRep
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 17,597
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: September 02, 2016, 11:37:44 am »

44% Clinton (D)
43% Trump (R)
11% Johnson (L)
3% Green (G)

Link.

Looks like Emerson has been busy lately, lol.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2016, 12:00:23 pm by TN volunteer »Logged
Fargobison
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1,500



View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2016, 11:38:30 am »

44% Clinton (D)
43% Trump (R)
11% Johnson (L)
3% Green (G)

http://www.theecps.com/

Looks like Emerson has been busy lately, lol.

Busy confirming that they are junk.
Logged
Ebsy
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7,725
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2016, 11:41:14 am »

Landline only, weighted for 2012 results! Hysterically bad methodology.
Logged
F_S_USATN
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 307


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2016, 11:41:35 am »

Im moving this race to "Trump loses the state by biggest margin for GOP since 44" to "Mccain level loss"
Logged
pbrower2a
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 19,947
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2016, 11:41:47 am »

Lots of polls with an apparent and large house advantage for Republicans?

English only, landline only.
Logged
Gass3268
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 18,755
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2016, 11:42:46 am »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.
Logged
Wiz in Wis
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2,508


View Profile WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2016, 11:46:39 am »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.

Maybe more like 8
Logged
Lief 🐋
Lief
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 40,644
Dominica


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2016, 11:50:54 am »

lmao
Logged
Pandaguineapig
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2,273
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2016, 11:52:17 am »

Unskeeeeeew!
Logged
Ebsy
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7,725
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2016, 11:57:04 am »

Unskeeeeeew!
You have to admit that the methodology is awful.
Logged
Seriously?
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,036
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2016, 11:59:26 am »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.
Logged
Ebsy
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7,725
United States


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2016, 12:00:29 pm »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.
Two awful polls don't confirm much of anything other than that they're awful.
Logged
NV less likely to flip than FL
xingkerui
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 15,642
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.63, S: -6.13

View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2016, 12:01:11 pm »

I guess Emerson decided its purpose in life is to make Gravis look good by comparison.
Logged
Wiz in Wis
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2,508


View Profile WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2016, 12:01:19 pm »

Unskeeeeeew!
You have to admit that the methodology is awful.

Unskewing is dumb, I admit. But pointing out that a firm has a bias isnt unskewing. I'm not suggesting that "all the polls" are missing X, Y, or Z types of people, I'm saying this firm clearly appears to have methodological and weighting issues that appear to consistently produce pro Trump results. I'm sure the race has narrowed since the conventions, but I doubt if Emerson was polling 3 weeks ago it would have shown Trump doing about 5 points better than everyone else.
Logged
Erich Maria Remarque
LittleBigPlanet
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,673
Sweden


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2016, 12:06:12 pm »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.

Maybe more like 8
Or 12!
Logged
ExtremeConservative
ExtremeRepublican
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6,850


Political Matrix
E: 8.39, S: 7.83

View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2016, 12:07:53 pm »

So, a poll is considered bad by Atlas if it shows a pro-GOP result and good if it shows a pro-Democrat one??
Logged
darthpi
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1,678
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.42, S: -5.91

P P

View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2016, 12:11:20 pm »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.

I'm terrified that I find myself agreeing with you on this.
Logged
HagridOfTheDeep
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7,847
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -3.21, S: -1.91


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2016, 12:13:39 pm »

At this rate, I think it makes a lot more sense to agree that things have tightened significantly than to find reasons to doubt every poll.

It may be true that this poll is questionable at best. But it's not a total fabrication. Give Clinton a few extra points and the race is still closer than it should be, and certainly too close for comfort.
Logged
Erich Maria Remarque
LittleBigPlanet
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,673
Sweden


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2016, 12:13:56 pm »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.

I'm terrified that I find myself agreeing with you on this.
Logged
Fusionmunster
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2,492


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2016, 12:14:08 pm »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.

I'm terrified that I find myself agreeing with you on this.

Its a landline. English only robo poll. Its junk.
Logged
Erich Maria Remarque
LittleBigPlanet
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,673
Sweden


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2016, 12:14:32 pm »

At this rate, I think it makes a lot more sense to agree that things have tightened significantly than to find reasons to doubt every poll.

It may be true that this poll is questionable at best. But it's not a total fabrication. Give Clinton a few extra points and the race is still closer than it should be, and certainly too close for comfort.
You are reasonable Smiley
Logged
darthpi
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1,678
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.42, S: -5.91

P P

View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2016, 12:14:42 pm »

At this rate, I think it makes a lot more sense to agree that things have tightened significantly than to find reasons to doubt every poll.

It may be true that this poll is questionable at best. But it's not a total fabrication. Give Clinton a few extra points and the race is still closer than it should be, and certainly too close for comfort.

Yep
Logged
mencken
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2,257
View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2016, 12:34:46 pm »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.

Do Emerson's polls seem to be about 5 points more Trump-favorable than the consensus? Yes
Does that necessarily mean that Emerson's polls have a 5 point bias? No
Logged
Invisible Obama
DrScholl
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 8,909
United States



View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2016, 12:40:34 pm »

If it really was this close, Clinton wouldn't have the ads. The fact that her staff is advising her to prepare for a landslide tells you all you need to know about this election. It is not going to be close at all.
Logged
HagridOfTheDeep
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7,847
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -3.21, S: -1.91


View Profile Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2016, 12:45:03 pm »

If it really was this close, Clinton wouldn't have the ads. The fact that her staff is advising her to prepare for a landslide tells you all you need to know about this election. It is not going to be close at all.

Mitt Romney's staff told him the same thing.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length
Logout

Terms of Service

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines