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Erich Maria Remarque
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« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2016, 07:11:26 pm »

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« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2016, 07:21:16 pm »


No, not conspiracy, just telling the (for you) sad truth that you still can't seem to get.
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« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2016, 07:34:07 pm »

One more time. Those polls are pretty much consistent with polls coming from A pollsters like Fox, Mounmouth, IBD, ABC, Franklin and Marshall College and many others. The race HAVE tightened considerably. But Emerson has 2-4% house effect and were conducted in the middle of Emails/Foundation scandals.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2016, 08:43:20 pm »

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« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2016, 09:02:44 pm »

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Yeah.Why just not trust the pollster that "has been cited as the most accurate in the past three presidential elections.". IBD/TIPP shows tie Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2016, 09:56:36 am »

With landlines one has an obsolescent technology. If something were to take out the landline grid, then it would not be rebuilt except for highly-specialized purposes. Prime example: after the Second Gulf War that took out the Iraqi telephone structure, the Kurds in the autonomous (and effectively independent, anti-fascist part of Iraq) went practically 100% cellular. Such was cheaper, safer, and more reliable than land lines.  Reliance upon demographics wedded to some obsolete technology implies a distorted sample.

Normal consumer use is not one of those specialized uses. Reliance on landlines will soon be as obsolete as using pre-recorded VHS tapes for entertainment.





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« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2016, 10:01:54 am »

With landlines one has an obsolescent technology. If something were to take out the landline grid, then it would not be rebuilt except for highly-specialized purposes. Prime example: after the Second Gulf War that took out the Iraqi telephone structure, the Kurds in the autonomous (and effectively independent, anti-fascist part of Iraq) went practically 100% cellular. Such was cheaper, safer, and more reliable than land lines.  Reliance upon demographics wedded to some obsolete technology implies a distorted sample.

Normal consumer use is not one of those specialized uses. Reliance on landlines will soon be as obsolete as using pre-recorded VHS tapes for entertainment.

Wireless technology is never more reliable. Landlines are the way to go for quality and reliability. They are not obsolete yet and will not be obsolete for many years to come, if ever.
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« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2016, 10:23:14 am »

With landlines one has an obsolescent technology. If something were to take out the landline grid, then it would not be rebuilt except for highly-specialized purposes. Prime example: after the Second Gulf War that took out the Iraqi telephone structure, the Kurds in the autonomous (and effectively independent, anti-fascist part of Iraq) went practically 100% cellular. Such was cheaper, safer, and more reliable than land lines.  Reliance upon demographics wedded to some obsolete technology implies a distorted sample.

Normal consumer use is not one of those specialized uses. Reliance on landlines will soon be as obsolete as using pre-recorded VHS tapes for entertainment.

Wireless technology is never more reliable. Landlines are the way to go for quality and reliability. They are not obsolete yet and will not be obsolete for many years to come, if ever.


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« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2016, 10:28:24 am »

I am talking about quality and reliability. I don't have a landline phone at home, because reliability and quality isn't as important for households. It is important for businesses and will remain in use there.

It is vital for the military and government and will never be abandoned.
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« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2016, 10:46:48 am »

I am talking about quality and reliability. I don't have a landline phone at home, because reliability and quality isn't as important for households. It is important for businesses and will remain in use there.

It is vital for the military and government and will never be abandoned.


Regardless of whatever uses it still has, it is simply an illegitimate practice for a pollster to only call landlines and pretend that it has conducted something worthy of being called a reputable poll. Unless the poll is specifically being done to demonstrate the dangers in landline-only polling (which even then of course should not be treated in averages like a standard poll), it should be covered with so much salt that you can't even see it anymore.
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« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2016, 06:10:06 pm »

I am talking about quality and reliability. I don't have a landline phone at home, because reliability and quality isn't as important for households. It is important for businesses and will remain in use there.

It is vital for the military and government and will never be abandoned.


Where the telephone must remain stationary, or for someone who has difficulty using a cellular phone (typically someone very old), landlines will survive. 

One security company now uses cell phones as its means of reporting residential break-ins because crooks can cut telephone wires.

The unreliability of a cell phone, other than failing to pay for the service, is failing to keep the phone charged. Communication on a cell phone can be very, very good. 
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