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« on: September 02, 2016, 11:37:44 AM »
« edited: September 02, 2016, 12:00:23 PM by TN volunteer »

44% Clinton (D)
43% Trump (R)
11% Johnson (L)
3% Green (G)

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Looks like Emerson has been busy lately, lol.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2016, 11:38:30 AM »

44% Clinton (D)
43% Trump (R)
11% Johnson (L)
3% Green (G)

http://www.theecps.com/

Looks like Emerson has been busy lately, lol.

Busy confirming that they are junk.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2016, 11:41:14 AM »

Landline only, weighted for 2012 results! Hysterically bad methodology.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2016, 11:41:35 AM »

Im moving this race to "Trump loses the state by biggest margin for GOP since 44" to "Mccain level loss"
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2016, 11:41:47 AM »

Lots of polls with an apparent and large house advantage for Republicans?

English only, landline only.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2016, 11:42:46 AM »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2016, 11:46:39 AM »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.

Maybe more like 8
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2016, 11:50:54 AM »

lmao
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2016, 11:52:17 AM »

Unskeeeeeew!
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2016, 11:57:04 AM »

You have to admit that the methodology is awful.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2016, 11:59:26 AM »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2016, 12:00:29 PM »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.
Two awful polls don't confirm much of anything other than that they're awful.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2016, 12:01:11 PM »

I guess Emerson decided its purpose in life is to make Gravis look good by comparison.
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2016, 12:01:19 PM »


Unskewing is dumb, I admit. But pointing out that a firm has a bias isnt unskewing. I'm not suggesting that "all the polls" are missing X, Y, or Z types of people, I'm saying this firm clearly appears to have methodological and weighting issues that appear to consistently produce pro Trump results. I'm sure the race has narrowed since the conventions, but I doubt if Emerson was polling 3 weeks ago it would have shown Trump doing about 5 points better than everyone else.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2016, 12:06:12 PM »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.

Maybe more like 8
Or 12!
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2016, 12:07:53 PM »

So, a poll is considered bad by Atlas if it shows a pro-GOP result and good if it shows a pro-Democrat one??
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2016, 12:11:20 PM »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.

I'm terrified that I find myself agreeing with you on this.
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2016, 12:13:39 PM »

At this rate, I think it makes a lot more sense to agree that things have tightened significantly than to find reasons to doubt every poll.

It may be true that this poll is questionable at best. But it's not a total fabrication. Give Clinton a few extra points and the race is still closer than it should be, and certainly too close for comfort.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2016, 12:13:56 PM »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.

I'm terrified that I find myself agreeing with you on this.
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2016, 12:14:08 PM »

Confirms the Hampton U poll that has it at Clinton +2.

Given the state of the polling and VA's PVI which is about Even, this is not a shocking result.

I'm terrified that I find myself agreeing with you on this.

Its a landline. English only robo poll. Its junk.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2016, 12:14:32 PM »

At this rate, I think it makes a lot more sense to agree that things have tightened significantly than to find reasons to doubt every poll.

It may be true that this poll is questionable at best. But it's not a total fabrication. Give Clinton a few extra points and the race is still closer than it should be, and certainly too close for comfort.
You are reasonable Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2016, 12:14:42 PM »

At this rate, I think it makes a lot more sense to agree that things have tightened significantly than to find reasons to doubt every poll.

It may be true that this poll is questionable at best. But it's not a total fabrication. Give Clinton a few extra points and the race is still closer than it should be, and certainly too close for comfort.

Yep
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2016, 12:34:46 PM »

Basically add 5 points to Clinton in any Emerson poll an then they make sense.

Do Emerson's polls seem to be about 5 points more Trump-favorable than the consensus? Yes
Does that necessarily mean that Emerson's polls have a 5 point bias? No
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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2016, 12:40:34 PM »

If it really was this close, Clinton wouldn't have the ads. The fact that her staff is advising her to prepare for a landslide tells you all you need to know about this election. It is not going to be close at all.
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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2016, 12:45:03 PM »

If it really was this close, Clinton wouldn't have the ads. The fact that her staff is advising her to prepare for a landslide tells you all you need to know about this election. It is not going to be close at all.

Mitt Romney's staff told him the same thing.
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