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« on: September 08, 2016, 08:22:53 AM »

New Poll: Colorado President by Magellan Strategies on 2016-08-31

Summary: D: 41%, R: 36%, I: 16%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2016, 08:26:37 AM »

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Clinton 40/56 (-16)
Trump 34/62 (-28)

This pollster has a C rating and R+0.6 bias, according to 538.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2016, 09:58:23 AM »

So, it looks like Colorado will be about D+2?  If you assume that we have a 2012-like race and that between this R poll and non-partisan poll, Colorado is like 11+5+2/3 = 6.3...and then when you factor in that Democrats over perform by about 1.5% there, you get about a +7 or +8. It makes since. Voter party id is now +.5%D instead of +.5%R in 12 or +1R% or 08. I'm guessing it would have been R+1 with a Non-Trump running and about D+2 or 3 with a non-Hillary running and about this if both candidates were reasonable fits.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2016, 10:04:12 AM »

So, it looks like Colorado will be about D+2?  If you assume that we have a 2012-like race and that between this R poll and non-partisan poll, Colorado is like 11+5+2/3 = 6.3...and then when you factor in that Democrats over perform by about 1.5% there, you get about a +7 or +8. It makes since. Voter party id is now +.5%D instead of +.5%R in 12 or +1R% or 08. I'm guessing it would have been R+1 with a Non-Trump running and about D+2 or 3 with a non-Hillary running and about this if both candidates were reasonable fits.
This is an advanced unskewing technology! Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2016, 10:06:12 AM »

Hmmm... Magellan is a Republican pollster and I believe this is client work?  I'm surprised they would release this.  Are they trying to tell Trump to stop wasting money in CO?

You have to stop to pretend that R-establishment wants Trump to win. I mean... Really!
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2016, 10:42:55 AM »

Considering this pollster has a Republican tilt, Colorado is probably out of reach for Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2016, 10:53:45 AM »

Considering this pollster has a Republican tilt, Colorado is probably out of reach for Trump.
Like I said, he could still win it, but if he does, the election will have already been called for him.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2016, 12:53:58 PM »

Magellan is a pretty bad pollster, but whatever.
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2016, 12:56:50 PM »

Trump ain't winnin Colorado.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2016, 01:02:00 PM »

What will be really interesting in Colorado is what will happen with 69,70, and 100.

69 is a universal Medicare bill. It's a lightning rod. No way it passes. Might actually be good to use in 2018 or 2020 if Trump wins and isn't popular. Could be good in 2022 during a six-year itch.

70- Minimum wage. Its up 15 points. Takes MW to $12 an hour by 2020. Its on the edge of reasonable.

100- Assisted suicide. There's no polling on this one. I imagine if people are OK with pot and abortion, they are OK with this.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2016, 02:10:29 PM »

Trump competitive in CO
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2016, 03:08:03 PM »


When the closest poll in the last couple months has Trump down 5, this is a different definition of "competitive" then I'm used to.  The RCP average has him down 9.7.  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/co/colorado_trump_vs_clinton-5751.html#polls
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2016, 03:38:47 PM »


When the closest poll in the last couple months has Trump down 5, this is a different definition of "competitive" then I'm used to.  The RCP average has him down 9.7.  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/co/colorado_trump_vs_clinton-5751.html#polls

So it's like D+3.5 or something now according to RCP.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 03:46:20 PM »


When the closest poll in the last couple months has Trump down 5, this is a different definition of "competitive" then I'm used to.  The RCP average has him down 9.7.  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/co/colorado_trump_vs_clinton-5751.html#polls

So it's like D+3.5 or something now according to RCP.
Yeah, right. Because almost every poll is from the period when Clinton was up 8-10 nationally. Common, guys, you can't be serious Cry
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2016, 03:48:23 PM »

This is a "C" rated pollster with no real history this election season, so would definitely take with a giant Tablespoon of salt and consider more as an internal poll than anything else.
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 04:44:58 PM »

Yeah, right. Because almost every poll is from the period when Clinton was up 8-10 nationally. Common, guys, you can't be serious Cry

Nate Silver agrees
Election Update: The Swing States Are Tightening, Too

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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 06:33:18 PM »

Yeah, right. Because almost every poll is from the period when Clinton was up 8-10 nationally. Common, guys, you can't be serious Cry

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That doesn't mean its not tightening, it just means the rust is moving to the right of where Democrats are expanding.
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