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« on: September 14, 2016, 12:02:31 pm »
« edited: September 14, 2016, 12:10:07 pm by Fusionmunster »

https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/09/14/clinton-maintains-narrow-lead-over-trump/
Poll conducted 9/10 - 9/13
4 way:
Clinton - 42%
Trump - 40%
Johnson - 5%
Stein - 3%

2 Way:
Clinton - 46%
Trump - 44%

These are RVs
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 12:11:50 pm »

Pneumonia Gate strikes!
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 12:41:46 pm »


Yes, a massive 0% shift.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 02:48:28 pm »

Fun, that Red Hacks are happy about this poll, lol. Who could believe it a week ago Cheesy

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 03:52:18 pm »

Fun, that Red Hacks are happy about this poll, lol. Who could believe it a week ago Cheesy

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Lol, what. Look at "deplorables" thread. Your buddies were having fun there, arguing that Hillary might underestimate 50%... Racism against Whites is allowed here and ag is freaking mod...

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 03:54:47 pm »

Fun, that Red Hacks are happy about this poll, lol. Who could believe it a week ago Cheesy

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Lol, what. Look at "deplorables" thread. Your buddies were having fun there, arguing that Hillary might underestimate 50%...

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He does this because he can. The alt-right is opening up a Pandora's box where someone automatically gains credibility in affirmatively taking a certain position or set of positions that no one else would. I think that is the crux of the 2016 election.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 03:55:00 pm »

Another stage where we are seeing variation in national versus state polling numbers?

Which is correct and what is the leading and what is the lagging indicator?
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 03:55:52 pm »

+2 with RVs probably means a lead with LVs.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 03:58:09 pm »

Another stage where we are seeing variation in national versus state polling numbers?

Which is correct and what is the leading and what is the lagging indicator?
So far, it has been the national polls leading but still..we could be living in a time where Ohio, Florida, and everywhere with obsolete or retired whites could poll like Missouri or Arkansas. Places like NY and CA will continue to vote more like NY and CA as those places continue to saturate ans spill over.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 03:59:19 pm »

+2 with RVs probably means a lead with LVs.
This could be accurate if voter intensity is at parity as per the LA times poll.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 04:03:27 pm »

Another stage where we are seeing variation in national versus state polling numbers?

Which is correct and what is the leading and what is the lagging indicator?
If you not cherry-picking, there is no big variation. And it is more like the state polls look SOOO awesome, BECAUSE they were lagging. We've got a lot of A nationall polls, but few in the swing states.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 04:04:17 pm »

+2 with RVs probably means a lead with LVs.
This could be accurate if voter intensity is at parity as per the LA times poll.
As per LA, ABC, FOX and CNN. Am I right?
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 06:38:06 am »

What is problematic about this poll is that it also shows the Generic Congressional Vote to be Dem+6 (44 vs 38).  This seems to indicate that Trump is over performing the GOP which is hard to believe and Johnson/Stein are peeling off Dem voters which I guess is more believable.    Also I find it hard to believe that the Dems could be +6 in the generic vote.  This might be a sample that over samples Dems.  The saving grace for Clinton is that this poll shows that if Johnson/Stein loses support Clinton is more likely to benefit.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 06:41:57 am »

If it is RV it is not nice as in the CNN OH/FL polls, Clinton was leading or tied in RV & then falling well behind in LV meaning her base is way more enthused & Trump's base is fired up & there will be a very high turnout.

I am waiting to see a CNN NBC etc national poll because in LV I think Trump will be tied or probably ahead which is horrible.

If Hillary does well in debates & campaigns as a progressive champion, there is hope. Otherwise this will turn out to be a very close contest!
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2016, 07:17:39 am »

+2 with RVs probably means a lead with LVs.
This could be accurate if voter intensity is at parity as per the LA times poll.
As per LA, ABC, FOX and CNN. Am I right?
That's your favorite poll. Cheesy
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2016, 07:21:31 am »

+2 with RVs probably means a lead with LVs.
This could be accurate if voter intensity is at parity as per the LA times poll.
As per LA, ABC, FOX and CNN. Am I right?
That's your favorite poll. Cheesy
I love all the polls Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2016, 07:23:23 am »

+2 with RVs probably means a lead with LVs.
This could be accurate if voter intensity is at parity as per the LA times poll.
As per LA, ABC, FOX and CNN. Am I right?
That's your favorite poll. Cheesy
I love all the polls Smiley
What.... you don't have a favorite? Huh
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2016, 07:28:50 am »

No! 538 is my favorite poll aggregator though!
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