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Sir Mohamed
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2018, 01:50:43 AM »

Yes, Agnew is gone. I like the selection of Brooke and hope he moves away from the war on drugs (but too early in time I guess). Also great to see that RFK does fine.
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2018, 02:22:57 AM »

Oh sad that Church is out, he was my preferred candidate.

I'd consider voting Rockefeller in the general, because he had a solid performance and I would hope for a RFK comeback (RFK/Church would be amazing). For the 1976 election, I predict a landslide Rockefeller victory. But go on, very well written!
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2018, 09:07:27 AM »

Great, go Cuomo!
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2018, 09:10:31 AM »

Great, I liked the Nixon/McGovern clash and the Humphrey leak. Hope Muskie wins the nomination, though I expect him to lose big league in Nov.
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2018, 09:50:00 AM »

Yup, the Muskie campaign is a mess. I'd probably end up voting for Rockefeller in the end and for Dems down-ballot.

I predict this outcome, though MA may go either way:



✓ President Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Vice President Gerald Ford (R-MI): 475 EVs.; 57.5%
Senator Ed Muskie (D-DE)Senator George McGovern (D-SD): 63 EVs.; 41.5%
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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2018, 09:29:22 AM »

It really looks bad for Muskie. McGovern did not well in the debate, I think. Looking forward to the prez debate.
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2018, 02:04:31 AM »

Wow, I see Muskie winning only MN and WV at best. Maybe Rockefeller runs the table?

I'd be ok with this. Hope Dems keep congress to prevent to great influence of the right-wingers. Curious to see how the next term goes.
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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2018, 09:43:42 AM »

Wow, I didn't expect this. But history proves that landslides often don't mean anything. I predict Rockefeller's approvals go down within two years or so. Probably he doesn't outlive his term anyway.
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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2018, 10:33:48 AM »

Hopefully healthcare passes, but that would probably break up the GOP. Rockefeller is a pretty decent prez anyway, though he probably won't make it to 1980.
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« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2018, 09:58:57 AM »

#LetDickSurvive
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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2019, 10:46:41 AM »

Go Holshouser, Dump Jesse Jackson! The '80 primary should be bitter with this GOP division, no matter what happens to Rockefeller.
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2019, 03:24:00 AM »

Sad the healthcare reform failed. But I would strongly support the foreign policy of the Rockefeller admin.
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2019, 03:30:35 AM »

Sad Bobby is out now. Hopefully Church runs, whom I would have preferred anyway.

For the GOP, I'd either like Hatfield or Scranton. Would also be ok with Ford. Maybe he becomes prez soon anyway?
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2019, 03:06:26 AM »

I have to admit, when we got through January without Rockefeller dying as IRL, I thought he'd make it through the term.

Me, too.

If I was Ford, I'd pick Reagan for VP now to eliminate him from the GOP primary and unify the party. He may have trouble with congressional approval, but in the aftermath of Rockefeller's death Ford should have enough sympathy to get his way. They'd win in 1980 unless the admin has a major failure.
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« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2019, 03:35:09 AM »

Glad Raygun wasn't picked. I predict he will challange Ford for the GOP nomination (and lose).
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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2019, 03:02:38 AM »

Oh no, Rummy is back.
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2019, 02:06:30 AM »

Looks like Gerald Ford will be a 18 month prez and Reagan the nominee. Sad. GO Jerry Brown!
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« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2021, 09:19:41 AM »

I didn't realize this TL was back. I read it 2 years ago. Good to see it resumes.

My prediction is that Reagan's campaign collapses in late October and Brown wins a relative landslide.
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« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2021, 09:13:39 AM »

Go Brown!

That said, I predict a narrow Reagan victory and his term will be a failure. 1984 ends up a Dem tsunami. Brown could just run again if he keeps it close enough.
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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2021, 11:24:53 AM »


Ronald Reagan: My plan is endorsed by numerous economists and professionals.

Jerry Brown: None of them was ever right on much.

Lol, get him Jerry.

That's amazing.

Still predicting a narrow Reagan win and his presidency is a total failure, causing a major backlash and Dem realignment.
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« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2021, 10:24:15 AM »

Ugh, this is giving me FL 2000 vibes. Just hope Raygun won't steal the election with this incident in MO.
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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2021, 10:19:42 AM »

Ugh, I enjoy reading this. When MO was called, I thought this race was done. Now it really looks like to be this TL's 2000 version with MO being FL.

My prediction is now the 270-268 map, too. And Raygun winning the NPV.
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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2021, 10:29:13 AM »

Ugh, this looks great.

My prediction:

December 12, 1980: Reagan concedes presidency after losing MO by 537 votes, won't challenge SCOTUS ruling
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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2022, 10:24:40 AM »

Fantastic update! Looking forward to the Brown presidency, especially what he's doing in foreign policy. I'm also curious what happens to Frank Church, as he technically didn't survive the term he hast been elected to (dying in April of 1984).

Election results kind of resemble actual 2000: MO is FL, SD is NH and OR is NM. The changes map looks pretty insane with every D state being a flip, lol.
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« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2022, 09:49:27 AM »

I think there's an opening here that Brown's Afghanistan policies could be a net plus for America in the long run. As questionable as the Soviet invasion was, we clearly supported the wrong people there that came back to haunt us.

In the short run, Brown may be seen as weak on communism though. But as long as he gets the economy back, it shouldn't be much of an issue and he'll win reelection.
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