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Great TL! Curious to see what happens next.

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Just caught up to it, awesome TL! I loved election night, and the recent events.

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I enjoy reading this awesome TL! Keep it up.

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Awesome updates! This is really realistic and well-written.

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Oh no. This is exciting, can't wait for it to continue!

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Great updates! I liked how RFK handled his brief acting presidency. Pentagon Papers are also interesting.

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This is amazing. Go Bobby or Rocky!

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This is amazing. Can't wait to see how it goes!

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Well, there goes my prediction of Agnew coming from the center to become the nominee, and then proceed to get his scandal revealed in the general election and absolutely collapse
This is awesome, keep it up!

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I'd support RFK, but would probably also become kind of a swing voter if Rocky is the Republican nominee.

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This is great! Actually, I'd answer that Carter won the VP debate- his answer about the VP role was great, while Ford was vague and didn't really say anything.

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Rockfeller seems likely to win, and I'd probably be fine with that if I was alive then. Still, go RFK!

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I'm predicting a narrow Rockfeller victory, but this is going to be tense. On the one hand an election thrown to congress would be fun, but dealing the Dixiecrats a deathblow would be even more fun- so since AL, LA and MS weren't polled, I'm still hoping that the New South Democrats like Albert Brewer will prevail and give RFK a win in the south

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Damn, I did not expect this. Go Kennedy!
Also, both Rocky and RFK would do well to give Chase Smith a prominent administration role.

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This was great! Might even be for the best- without Watergate and Reagan, perhaps the era of polarization will never come in the intensity we're seeing today.
Rocky '76, RFK '80, RFK '84!

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This was great! Might even be for the best- without Watergate and Reagan, perhaps the era of polarization will never come in the intensity we're seeing today.
Rocky '76, RFK '80, RFK '84!

if you want to stop that , have some other GOP congressman become the Speaker of the House in the mid 1990s.

Agreed, though Reagan laid the ideological groundwork and moved the party to the right on many issues. But he understood how to make deals with Democrats and hold common-sense positions on some other topics (like gun control) and was pretty liberal in immigration. With this stance, he'd likely perform poorly in today's Republican Party (Reagan is actually some Jeff Flake with more charisma).

Rocky 76 and then RFK seems likely at this moment of history, but I'd just like to remind that several leaders including presidents came out of nowhere within a short period of time. Who heard of Barack Obama in 2000 or Bill Clinton 1984 outside of their constituencies? However, it's weird or funny to think about RFK being a major figure in the 1980s.

Hm, that might be the way we see him today, but Reagan did move the Republican party far to the right and basically erased the Rockfeller Republicans from existence. He's the founder of modern-day Republicanism, all of them are in his mold in the end. So without a President Reagan, I believe that we'd have a very different Republican party.

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Nice! Many of the choices are great.
Also, hm, Agnew... Looks like the first scandal of the new administration has been set in motion

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Awh, was hoping Smith or Romney would get the State Department. Hoping it won't be Reagan.

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I like how Agnew and McGovern are the attack dogs of both sides Also, other than the drug thing, I like the Rockfeller Administration so far! Hopefully they educate themselves about the harmlessness of marijuana, but oh well, I guess that's an issue for years later.

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I like Romney and Scranton in this TL. Still RFK '80, but wouldn't terribly mind Romney either. I just hope Reagan's and Goldwater's wings are crushed for good, making it "Liberal Republicans vs Labour Democrats". Also, you write administration events very, very well! Good job!

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Agnew: You're using the Senate for ideology!
Also Agnew: As Attorney General I'm guided by my ideology

Lol, I'm definitely with McGovern here This is great so far! McGovern is definitely going to play a role in 1976.

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This was an awesome update! A couple of thoughts:

1. I'm glad the invasion was beaten so hard! However, looking at the current situation, it'd be interesting if Israel and the U.S. have the foresight to "hit the iron while it's hot" and return most of the West Bank to Jordan in exchange for a peace agreement (and at the same time returning Sinai to Egypt for peace), while retaining Jerusalem. By retaining the West Bank, we've basically created the Palestinian problem from today, a problem that has huge consequences like radicalizing the Israeli population to the right and creating major divides in our society. If I could change history, I'd just let Jordan handle this (while, again, retaining most of Jerusalem)- we'd be a much better country today, with a healthy political system where the left, center and right are relatively balanced.

2. The Arabs can't keep up their embargo. They'll be forced to sell oil to the U.S., and presumably the rest of the western world which Rocky would try to pressure into refusing to buy oil from these countries, because these are their biggest partners. The USSR produces its own oil for the most part, and China probably doesn't use that much yet, so it's a huge blow to Arabic and Persian oil producers. They'll have to bend.

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Great update. I do hope RFK wins the NY Governorship in 1974 and the Presidency in 1980, though I'm not sure things will go so smoothly for him

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Cranston, Reid, McGovern and Bayh 1974!

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Kennedt, Javits, Cranston and Brown!