FL/OH- CNN: Trump +3 and +5

[Fusionmunster]

Did they poll in Spanish?

And you called me a troll

You are. You have made this forum a worse place. Im shocked the moderators haven't taken action against you.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Did they poll in Spanish?

And you called me a troll

You are. You have made this forum a worse place. Im shocked the moderators haven't taken action against you.

Get back into basket, deplorable!
Your last 10 posts here is about that you put me on ignore. Meanwhile we're got polls that might indikate that the race has changed for real


BTW, NH is next

Is it not beatutiful?
Now-cast 538:

[ApatheticAustrian]

what a crazy election......but for me as an european it's the most european (and so "logical") US election i have ever seen.

the "right wing"-guy promises thetypical social-democratic stuff...but only for his own ethnic group and blue collar voters are reacting the same way like in the rest of the "west": appreciation and support.

i wish for the US to be different and more "liberty"-loving than europe but at the moment i guess, the US will too vote for the putin-adoring, clue-less and emotion-controlled candidate.

regarding these specific polls...OH seems like a goner but i guess florida will be too close to call till the end.

[henster]

What could've been with a Biden run likely double digit win, take back Senate, House in play but we have fckn Hillary.

[NOVA Green]

Trump getting into the upper 40s means he's probably brought a good chunk of the wavering Republicans home and that his leads are from him getting a boost in support; can't just be blamed solely on lack of D enthusiasm.

It's a mix of both.... as I argued elsewhere Trump has been consolidating Republican base support and Clinton has seen some defection to 3rd Party candidates and/or LV models screening out some soft Clinton supporters (enthusiasm)..

Florida still looks to be a potential squeaker come November, and 3rd Party support is weaker there than many other "swing states".

Ohio--- There are still a large number of "persuadables" at 26% according to this poll, more so among "Trump could change mind" (9%)  and "Johnson could change mind" (8%) compared to "Clinton could change mind" (6%).  RV/LV models don't change much in this poll. FAV/UNFAV numbers look much worse for Clinton than Trump, and Obama approve-disapprove 48/49 is definitely a major cause of concern for Teamp Clinton. At this point it looks like OH is running 4-5 points to the Right of national polling, and Trump appears to have a small but significant edge at this point in the election.

[NOVA Green]

I, for one, welcome our new Trump overlords.

Knew you would come around! We're gonna put you in the biggest, classiest home in the tallest tower we build with really elegant lighting. If you're lucky, you may even get the side facing The Wall!

So is the wall to keep us from leaving for sunnier climes South of the Border, or to keep all of the "undesirables" out.

[Dumbo]

What could've been with a Biden run likely double digit win, take back Senate, House in play but we have fckn Hillary.

Are you really sure Biden (age 74 in late Nov) would`ve been be fit enough for such a brutal election?
Obama should have replaced him 2012 with a younger VP.

[ApatheticAustrian]

besides from the fitness question a trump-biden election would have been an apocalyptic gaffe-armageddon, with two characters who are, in some ways, quite similar.

[PresidentSamTilden]

Trump lead in OH outside of MoE confirmed. Hillary must be holding on in PA/NH/WI by a thread at this point. I don't think it's unfair to call this a 50/50 race right now, with one side having clear momentum.

Hopefully she can come back, but if not...well, the other candidate might win, lol. Sucks to be a young american right now.

[PresidentSamTilden]

besides from the fitness question a trump-biden election would have been an apocalyptic gaffe-armageddon, with two characters who are, in some ways, quite similar.

Haha, you have a point there. It's funny how everyone thinks Biden is a magic bullet now...he's certainly made his fair share of campaign mistakes.

[SirMuxALot]

besides from the fitness question a trump-biden election would have been an apocalyptic gaffe-armageddon, with two characters who are, in some ways, quite similar.

Yes, I'm imagining Biden saying Trump supporters were a "Basket of dirty inarticulates".

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Even on the CNN map, Clinton is at 273 with Virginia, Michigan, Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico. So Trump could win here and Ohio and still easily lose.

[Bismarck]

Trump comfortably winning white college grads in both states.

[RFayette]

What could've been with a Biden run likely double digit win, take back Senate, House in play but we have fckn Hillary.

How do you think it feels like to be a Republican this cycle?  It would have been so ecstatic to see Cruz crushing Clinton.  

[Erich Maria Remarque]

besides from the fitness question a trump-biden election would have been an apocalyptic gaffe-armageddon, with two characters who are, in some ways, quite similar.

Haha, you have a point there. It's funny how everyone thinks Biden is a magic bullet now...he's certainly made his fair share of campaign mistakes.

Yeah, with the minor things the media has been able to tag Hillary with; it isn't really hard to imagine them bringing Biden/Sanders/any D down to Trump's level with the right reporting.

Stop to give a magical power to media. You're being mediaphobic! No-no!

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Even on the CNN map, Clinton is at 273 with Virginia, Michigan, Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico. So Trump could win here and Ohio and still easily lose.

Yes, because there are not many fresh polls over there
Just wait

[ApatheticAustrian]

in my opinion, the media is - in some ways - biased against both candidates.

on the more visible level, ofc NEARLY ALL members of the mainstream journalistic world...generally educated people with idealistic views about the world....loath trump from the bottom of their heart.

but....at the same time, writing narratives like comebacks and close elections and the fall of the high-and-mighty is bread and butter for any self-respecting and ratings-interested journalist too....the crazier the contrast between the candidates the better.

which is why every little trump victory (like reading a speech without destroying all his teeth from the foot-in-mouth-putting) and every hillary downfall gets much more attention than it would otherwise.

cause.....the oh-so-liberal media falls every time for a good horse-race-scenario and it also loves to contradict the stereotype of the oh-so-liberal media, which is why they want to have it both ways....

in my opinion, since trump now seems to have become a puppet controlled by his new campaign overlords and the blue-collar-demise seems to be real, hillary is the candidate more vulnerable to another gaffe ...especially since everybody says she is till the favorite, which is kind of a false promise.

maybe the US are the one country which is able to stand against the tide but i get more sceptical each day....the debates must be a TKO, otherwise this is going to become a nail-biter imo, against all metrics.

[ApatheticAustrian]

besides from the fitness question a trump-biden election would have been an apocalyptic gaffe-armageddon, with two characters who are, in some ways, quite similar.

Haha, you have a point there. It's funny how everyone thinks Biden is a magic bullet now...he's certainly made his fair share of campaign mistakes.

Yeah, with the minor things the media has been able to tag Hillary with; it isn't really hard to imagine them bringing Biden/Sanders/any D down to Trump's level with the right reporting.

Stop to give a magical power to media. You're being mediaphobic! No-no!

media brought us obama and trump in the first place. ^^

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

It seems like they were little too R friendly in this polls.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

It seems like they were little too R friendly in this polls.

A little? Add 7% to Clinton and you'll get the reality!

[Ronnie]

It's pretty astonishing that Trump is getting almost all Republicans now.  Did #NeverTrump just fizzle overnight, or something?

[KingSweden]

It seems like they were little too R friendly in this polls.

Well, prob not too friendly. House effect is only approx 1 point per 538

[NOVA Green]

Even on the CNN map, Clinton is at 273 with Virginia, Michigan, Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico. So Trump could win here and Ohio and still easily lose.

Nevada looking a bit iffy for Clinton despite in theory some positive recent electoral history and demographics.

[Buffalo Bill]

This is pretty funny especially since polls almost always show Democrats winning. 

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

It's pretty astonishing that Trump is getting almost all Republicans now.  Did #NeverTrump just fizzle overnight, or something?

Most NeverTrumpers probably realized in the end Trump was more palatable than Clinton and thought about the Supreme Court.