Economist/YouGov: Clinton +3 (4-way) / +4 (2-way)
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« on: September 25, 2016, 07:50:31 PM »
« edited: September 25, 2016, 08:10:16 PM by Assemblyman Gass3268 »

Clinton 44 (+4)
Trump 41 (+3)
Johnson 5 (-2)
Stein 2 (0)

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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2016, 07:52:31 PM »

Seems right
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2016, 07:53:46 PM »

Clinton 44 (+4)
Trump 38 (+3)
Johnson 5 (-2)
Stein 2 (0)

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Trump is at 41 in that poll, correct it. It's HRC 44, Trump 41, Johnson 5, Stein 2
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2016, 07:55:05 PM »

- This poll has been really consistent, Clinton was up 2 the previous three weeks
- This is actually Hillary's largest lead since August 29th.
- This is the highest both Clinton and Trump have been in this poll.
- Looks like Johnson is starting to finally starting to decline.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2016, 07:56:41 PM »

Clinton 44 (+4)
Trump 38 (+3)
Johnson 5 (-2)
Stein 2 (0)

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Trump is at 41 in that poll, correct it. It's HRC 44, Trump 41, Johnson 5, Stein 2

Corrected it, I had Trump's old number.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2016, 07:58:35 PM »

Several polls are suggesting the Johnson collapse has begun. Stein seems to be holding at her lower level. Johnson will be lucky to beat Nader 2000 at this rate with no debates and an electorate motivated by real enthusiasm or voting the lesser evil.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2016, 08:01:54 PM »

Several polls are suggesting the Johnson collapse has begun. Stein seems to be holding at her lower level. Johnson will be lucky to beat Nader 2000 at this rate with no debates and an electorate motivated by real enthusiasm or voting the lesser evil.

If you actually look at the number of respondents saying they'll vote Stein in each poll, in some cases it's just around a dozen. Yet this is than extrapolated out. I totally expect her %'s in most state to by no more than 1%.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2016, 08:04:41 PM »

In a 2 way:
Clinton: 48%
Trump: 44%

https://mobile.twitter.com/YouGovUS/status/780205718859382784/photo/1
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2016, 08:06:22 PM »


Should be updated to reflect this as well.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2016, 08:07:54 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2016, 08:10:45 PM by dspNY »


YouGov was actually really good in the primaries so I trust them (which means Clinton should go back into Colorado immediately with ad money. That also means she is ahead in OH and FL too, against what other polling has said in OH)

If we're seeing Clinton +4 with the way the white vote seems to be cutting this year, she should be ahead in NC and FL

Additionally, the H2H is good for Clinton here since it was 45-44 last week in this poll
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2016, 08:12:47 PM »

This part of the poll is really good for Clinton too:

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The debates may have the effect of completely locking in the rest of the Sanders supporters on Clinton's side if she does well, which would guarantee her victory
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2016, 08:17:35 PM »

This part of the poll is really good for Clinton too:

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The debates may have the effect of completely locking in the rest of the Sanders supporters on Clinton's side if she does well, which would guarantee her victory

Woah, that's really good news if true!
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2016, 08:22:56 PM »

The Incredible Shrinking Johnson! He must have gone swimming!
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2016, 08:28:01 PM »
« Edited: September 25, 2016, 08:32:46 PM by ApatheticAustrian »

i guess the more republicans come home for trump, the more johnson-democrats are also trying to counter it.

even while he is not really loved on this board, i think taking sceptics like nate silver seriously in general will prevent us all from a world of pain....clinton and obama are right, this is much closer than it should be and they should handle it like they would handle every true toss-up...especially with all the noise from so many states which have been non-volatile in the past.
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2016, 08:55:31 PM »

Its odd they appear to be using a D+10/11 sample.
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2016, 09:16:04 PM »

Still the only major poll not to employ a LV screen at this point. Odd.
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2016, 09:23:25 PM »

Not sure about the veracity of this poll in particular, but topline numbers seem to match other national polls (Although obviously statewide numbers in places like CA, NY, MA, and TX) could well be impacting national versus swing state polls.

Still, it does indicate that at least nationally, 3rd party and undecided voters will break towards Clinton if forced into a choice in a FTF or heads-up match.
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