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Speed of Sound
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« on: June 30, 2005, 03:31:27 PM »
What would the 1964 election looked like without the assassination of JFK? can somone make a map?
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2005, 03:33:56 PM »
ok. made a mistake. accidentally pushed enter, Tongue so just type in your vote and who you think would win.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2005, 04:16:37 PM »
For some reason I feel completely unable to vote for Goldwater.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2005, 04:25:18 PM »
Other Smiley (I think you know who I mean)
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2005, 04:50:14 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2005, 05:51:32 PM »
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on June 30, 2005, 04:16:37 PM
For some reason I feel completely unable to vote for Goldwater.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2005, 06:49:30 PM »
Goldwater/JFK

Landslide for JFK, but a bit less than LBJ's:
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2005, 07:01:11 PM »
PB, JFK would get his ass handed to him in the South- especially since he was going to drop Johnson as his running mate. We've (sort of) had this thread before, BTW, so I'll just post my previous map:

Quote from: Goldwater on February 23, 2005, 09:16:17 PM
JFK wins 55-45 in the popular vote. Map:



Kennedy wins 344-194, but Goldwater sweeps the South and runs strong in the Plains and Mountain West.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2005, 07:07:40 PM »
What do you think the popular vote would be?
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2005, 07:08:39 PM »
55-45. I of course vote for Goldwater.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2005, 07:15:01 PM »
What did Goldwater think about taxes?
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2005, 07:20:31 PM »
Quote from: Laissez-faire on June 30, 2005, 07:15:01 PM
What did Goldwater think about taxes?

I think he supported a flat tax; not sure, though.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2005, 07:21:49 PM »
Quote from: Goldwater on June 30, 2005, 07:01:11 PM
We've (sort of) had this thread before, BTW
oops. Feb. is a little before my time.
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2005, 07:22:37 PM »
Doesn't bother me. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2005, 10:25:00 PM »
« Edited: June 30, 2005, 10:26:54 PM by Winfield »


Kennedy        328     52%
Goldwater      210     48%

My vote would have been for Goldwater.
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2005, 10:52:41 PM »
Quote from: Laissez-faire on June 30, 2005, 07:15:01 PM
What did Goldwater think about taxes?

Goldwater opposed the 1961 Kennedy tax cut.  He wanted to raise taxes to balance the budget.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2005, 10:59:32 PM »
http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-so-ev.html

Lee Edwards spoke about "Barry Goldwater: The Once and Future Libertarian" at a Book Forum honoring publication of his new book, Goldwater: The Man Who Made a Revolution. Edwards pointed out that Goldwater's 1964 presidential platform, which included a call for a flat tax, privatization, elimination of farm subsidies, and voluntary Social Security, is today at the center of the public policy debate.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2005, 12:44:48 AM »
Goldwater/JFK.
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2005, 02:41:01 AM »
Quote from: Laissez-faire on June 30, 2005, 10:59:32 PM
http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-so-ev.html

Lee Edwards spoke about "Barry Goldwater: The Once and Future Libertarian" at a Book Forum honoring publication of his new book, Goldwater: The Man Who Made a Revolution. Edwards pointed out that Goldwater's 1964 presidential platform, which included a call for a flat tax, privatization, elimination of farm subsidies, and voluntary Social Security, is today at the center of the public policy debate.

http://www.wanniski.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=2061

Goldwater may have supproted flat taxes in principle, but as Jude Wanniski recalls:

"You're all too young to remember, but Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign featured ATTACKS on the Kennedy tax cuts that passed that year, tax cuts which brought the top income-tax rate to 70% from 91%."
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2005, 12:02:13 PM »
« Edited: July 18, 2005, 01:06:33 PM by Plummyman »
Good 4 years:

Kennedy - 473
Goldwater - 65

Bad 4 years:

Kennedy - 43
Goldwater - 495
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2005, 12:28:45 PM »

Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont go to Kennedy. Goldenshower was (is) too much of an extremist for the mid sixties.
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2005, 12:35:16 PM »
Something like this maybe (remember, no sympathy fo JFK):
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2005, 07:00:43 PM »
Quote from: Winfield on June 30, 2005, 10:25:00 PM


Kennedy        328     52%
Goldwater      210     48%

My vote would have been for Goldwater.

You've got to be kidding me. Do you really think that Goldwater would pull numbers that large in 1964 even if Kennedy had survived, or hadn't been shot.

Basically if Kennedy is shot and survives its a huge landslide if it's not then it's slightly less of one.
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2005, 06:11:23 AM »
Kennedy would have done badly in the South. Consider the 1960 result and then presume that Kennedy does WORSE than that. However, he would have swept the Northeast and Northwest. AND the Midwest.
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2005, 03:11:55 PM »
The real 1964 results aren't too different from this hypothetical match-up.
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