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Senator Cris
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PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Colorado
Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 6, Stein 2
Clinton 51, Trump 44
Florida
Clinton 45, Trump 43, Johnson 3, Stein 1
Clinton 48, Trump 45
North Carolina
Clinton 44, Trump 42, Johnson 7
Clinton 49, Trump 45
Pennsylvania
Clinton 45, Trump 39, Johnson 6, Stein 2
Clinton 49, Trump 44
Virginia
Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 7, Stein 1
Clinton 49, Trump 43
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/09/clinton-leads-in-key-battlegrounds-seen-as-big-debate-winner.html
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: Senator Cris on September 29, 2016, 06:16:01 am
Colorado
Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 6, Stein 2
Clinton 51, Trump 44
Florida
Clinton 45, Trump 43, Johnson 3, Stein 1
Clinton 48, Trump 45
North Carolina
Clinton 44, Trump 42, Johnson 7
Clinton 49, Trump 45
Pennsylvania
Clinton 45, Trump 39, Johnson 6, Stein 2
Clinton 49, Trump 44
Virginia
Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 7, Stein 1
Clinton 49, Trump 43
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/09/clinton-leads-in-key-battlegrounds-seen-as-big-debate-winner.html
North Carolina is the really encouraging one...Clinton +4 from the gold standard in NC polling is big
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That certainly is a 7 on the happiness scale.
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Depressing. I suppose that losing a debate does have consequences.
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SWEET SASSY MOLLASEY!!!
Trump this morning:
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Great poll results!
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This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
Lovely. PA and VA are a little weaker than I'd like, but leads are leads
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 29, 2016, 06:32:30 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
Lovely. PA and VA are a little weaker than I'd like, but leads are leads
I mean this is roughly in line with PPP's national poll I'd say. If we take that as gospel this gives the states as:
Pennsylvania, Virginia, Colorado: D +2
North Carolina, FLorida : R +2
I'd expect PA and VA to be more D than that and NC to be more R than that but it's all MoE stuff.
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can anybody tell me the track record of PPP in 2014? in 2012 they were formidable but i would like to figure out if they are quite good in general or just have had the luck to catch the under-measured obama vote better than others thanks to their pro-D-bias.
would help me to understand if those numbers here are realistic. ^^
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Quote from: ApatheticAustrian on September 29, 2016, 06:36:08 am
can anybody tell me the track record of PPP in 2014? in 2012 they were formidable but i would like to figure out if they are quite good in general or just have had the luck to catch the under-measured obama vote better than others thanks to their pro-D-bias.
would help me to understand if those numbers here are realistic. ^^
Almost everyone was bad in 2014.
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Yeah, they kind of blew 2014 but I think most pollsters were to Dem-friendly that year.
PPP is decent, I wouldn't think they're crazy off most of the time.
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These are NOT PPP polls. They are PPP (D) polls for a left-leaning advocacy group. To be treated accordingly.
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
Hush, troll.
Seriously?, you got 2012 totally wrong by insisting that we don't trust PPP and that we should unskew polls based on party ID. Maybe you could explain to StatesPoll how this works if you learnt from your mistakes?
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: Seriously? on September 29, 2016, 06:43:53 am
These are NOT PPP polls. They are PPP (D) polls for a left-leaning advocacy group. To be treated accordingly.
Someone payed them to do these polls, doesnt change their methodology.
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Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
I don't like the results any more than you do, but this is a poor way to criticize them. Party ID is fluid -- I learned that the hard way in 2008 by believing "unskewers". If you want to criticize it as slanted because of the advocacy group they did it for, that's fine. I still find it depressing -- VA/PA are about the same as their last releases as best I can remember, but FL and NC moved toward Clinton by 3 and 4 points, respectively.
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Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
But muh Purty ID... How's President Romney's approval looking these days?
Silence, unskewer!
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Hakuna matata!
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Quote from: HokeyPuck on September 29, 2016, 07:10:04 am
Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
But muh Purty ID... How's President Romney's approval looking these days?
Silence, unskewer!
Unskewer?
I'm telling u with real election 2.28 million samples.
Vote-by-mail in FL, 9/29/2016.
REP 43.6% > DEM 37.3% R +6.3% (with '2.28 million' samples.)
https://countyballotfiles.elections.myflorida.com/FVRSCountyBallotReports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats
and u red avatars feel hooray with '826' horribly skewed samples?(which is D +8%)
826 LV skewed samples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.28 Million (real election 2016 samples)
amazing red avatars!
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Quote from: Fusionmunster on September 29, 2016, 07:05:53 am
Quote from: Seriously? on September 29, 2016, 06:43:53 am
These are NOT PPP polls. They are PPP (D) polls for a left-leaning advocacy group. To be treated accordingly.
Someone payed them to do these polls, doesnt change their methodology.
The client calls the shots. Of course it potentially does. And it needs to be disclosed, as PPP did. It also needs to be disclosed here as well.
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Quote from: Seriously? on September 29, 2016, 06:43:53 am
These are NOT PPP polls. They are PPP (D) polls for a left-leaning advocacy group. To be treated accordingly.
If we started treating your posts accordingly then I'm sure you wouldn't like it a bit.
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:23:35 am
Quote from: HokeyPuck on September 29, 2016, 07:10:04 am
Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
But muh Purty ID... How's President Romney's approval looking these days?
Silence, unskewer!
Unskewer?
I'm telling u with real election 2.28 million samples.
Vote-by-mail in FL, 9/29/2016.
REP 43.6% > DEM 37.3% R +6.3% (with '2.28 million' samples.)
https://countyballotfiles.elections.myflorida.com/FVRSCountyBallotReports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats
and u red avatars feel hooray with '826' horribly skewed samples?(which is D +8%)
826 LV skewed samples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.28 Million (real election 2016 samples)
amazing red avatars!
My avatar is green, foolish one. Do you not understand that Party ID =/= Party Registration?! Off with ye to the bowels of history, where you and Dick Morris shall bathe in a sea of poopdick.
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: Landslide Lyndon on September 29, 2016, 07:32:06 am
Quote from: Seriously? on September 29, 2016, 06:43:53 am
These are NOT PPP polls. They are PPP (D) polls for a left-leaning advocacy group. To be treated accordingly.
If we started treating your posts accordingly then I'm sure you wouldn't like it a bit.
You already do and I don't give a damn what you think. My point is a valid one either way.
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Re: PPP: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, PA, VA.
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Quote from: HokeyPuck on September 29, 2016, 07:35:33 am
Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:23:35 am
Quote from: HokeyPuck on September 29, 2016, 07:10:04 am
Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
But muh Purty ID... How's President Romney's approval looking these days?
Silence, unskewer!
Unskewer?
I'm telling u with real election 2.28 million samples.
Vote-by-mail in FL, 9/29/2016.
REP 43.6% > DEM 37.3% R +6.3% (with '2.28 million' samples.)
https://countyballotfiles.elections.myflorida.com/FVRSCountyBallotReports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats
and u red avatars feel hooray with '826' horribly skewed samples?(which is D +8%)
826 LV skewed samples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.28 Million (real election 2016 samples)
amazing red avatars!
My avatar is green, foolish one. Do you not understand that Party ID =/= Party Registration?! Off with ye to the bowels of history, where you and Dick Morris shall bathe in a sea of poopdick.
Note how he only trolls states that only Trump needs...
Quote from: HokeyPuck on September 29, 2016, 07:35:33 am
Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:23:35 am
Quote from: HokeyPuck on September 29, 2016, 07:10:04 am
Quote from: StatesPoll on September 29, 2016, 07:01:18 am
Quote from: Gustaf on September 29, 2016, 06:30:49 am
This is strong. In a 5 poll sample a couple are going to err on the Trump-friendly side so Clinton being ahead in all 5 looks pretty solid!
Looks like we might be headed back to Clinton ahead by mid-single digits again.
very 'TRUMP friendly'
PPP Polls 9/27-28 sampling
FL: DEM 45% | REP 37% | IND 18%
NC: DEM 41% | REP 32% | IND 27%
But muh Purty ID... How's President Romney's approval looking these days?
Silence, unskewer!
Unskewer?
I'm telling u with real election 2.28 million samples.
Vote-by-mail in FL, 9/29/2016.
REP 43.6% > DEM 37.3% R +6.3% (with '2.28 million' samples.)
https://countyballotfiles.elections.myflorida.com/FVRSCountyBallotReports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats
and u red avatars feel hooray with '826' horribly skewed samples?(which is D +8%)
826 LV skewed samples >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.28 Million (real election 2016 samples)
amazing red avatars!
My avatar is green, foolish one. Do you not understand that Party ID =/= Party Registration?! Off with ye to the bowels of history, where you and Dick Morris shall bathe in a sea of poopdick.
Now that's spicy... a little harsh, though.
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