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« on: October 01, 2016, 01:46:39 pm »

45% Clinton
44% Trump
  5% Johnson
  1% Other
  5% Undecided

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METHODOLOGY

Sample: 800 likely voters in Nevada

Dates of Interviews: September 27-September 29, 2016

Languages of Interviews: English, Spanish

Margin of Error: +/- 3.5 percentage points

Source: Bendixen & Amandi International

http://www.reviewjournal.com/politics/election-2016/rj-s-nevada-poll-shows-clinton-and-trump-are-statistical-tie
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2016, 01:49:32 pm »

Bendixen-Amandi is a (D) pollster though:

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The firm’s other managing partner, Fernand Amandi — it’s now called Bendixen & Amandi — brings significant political experience to the enterprise as well. Amandi has consulted for the White House, Sen. Robert Menendez, Secretary of State John Kerry, and numerous corporations and institutions. Rolling Stone termed his “Nuestra Amiga” advertisement for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign “one of the more charming moments in the history of political ad wars.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/hispanic_pollsters/
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2016, 01:50:44 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2016, 01:51:57 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2016, 01:54:50 pm »

would be a MAJOR improvement for clinton.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2016, 01:55:09 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

They call it a statistical tie. The poll is Clinton +1. Come on.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2016, 01:55:22 pm »

Good that they included interview in Spanish (I know some people will hate that), but the Party ID looks a bit R-friendly, and Latinos were 19% of the electorate in 2012, so I'm not sure why they'd drop to 15%.  Either way, throw it in to the mix. inb4 NV'S A TOTAL TOSS-UP AGAIN!
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2016, 02:02:46 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2016, 02:04:55 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2016, 02:06:43 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

It's NOT a tie.  A "statistical tie", which is a terrible term anyway, is not the same thing as a tied result. A quote from the article (emphasis mine):

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Because Clinton’s 1-point lead is within the margin of error, Clinton and Trump effectively are in a statistical tie in Nevada, putting the state’s six electoral votes in play.

If you have any integrity in posting these results, you should change the header to Clinton+1.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2016, 02:08:06 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.

In what Universe is Clinton 45, Trump 44, a tie?  Close, yes; tied, no.  You're completely in the wrong here.
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2016, 02:09:01 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2016, 02:10:45 pm »

Anyone who uses the term "statistical tie" has absolutely no understanding of statistics.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2016, 02:13:34 pm »

Can it seriously be argued that just writing "tie" when the race isn't literally tied is at least misleading?
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2016, 02:14:08 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.

In what Universe is Clinton 45, Trump 44, a tie?  Close, yes; tied, no.  You're completely in the wrong here.

He had no problem posting Trump +1 in a MO poll in early September. http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=244808.0

Anyway, I do find Tender descent into full-fledge hack humorous. Bernie lost, dude.....get over it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2016, 02:18:17 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.

In what Universe is Clinton 45, Trump 44, a tie?  Close, yes; tied, no.  You're completely in the wrong here.

He had no problem posting Trump +1 in a MO poll in early September. http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=244808.0

Anyway, I do find Tender descent into full-fledge hack humorous. Bernie lost, dude.....get over it.


There's no difference between C+1 or T+1 or calling it a "tie". Get over my heading ... dude.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2016, 02:18:32 pm »

Tender, you clearly had no problem distinguishing between +1 and a tie before, why now?

Stop being so stubborn. Please just change the title and stop being weird.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2016, 02:19:08 pm »

Mods can we ban Tender from starting threads if he's going to use them to force his right-wing pro-Trump fantasies on us??
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2016, 02:19:17 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.

Must have taken stats at Trump U
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2016, 02:19:22 pm »

45% Clinton (D)
44% Trump (R)
  5% Johnson (L)
  1% Other
  5% Undecided

Title reflects the actual results.

"The poll surveyed 800 likely voters in Nevada in interviews conducted between Sep. 27 and Sept. 29 — immediately after the first televised presidential debate — in English and Spanish."

Link: http://www.reviewjournal.com/politics/election-2016/rj-s-nevada-poll-shows-clinton-and-trump-are-statistical-tie
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2016, 02:20:48 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.

In what Universe is Clinton 45, Trump 44, a tie?  Close, yes; tied, no.  You're completely in the wrong here.

He had no problem posting Trump +1 in a MO poll in early September. http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=244808.0

Anyway, I do find Tender descent into full-fledge hack humorous. Bernie lost, dude.....get over it.


There's no difference between C+1 or T+1 or calling it a "tie". Get over my heading ... dude.

I am over it.

Your hackery is just hilarious and so transparent.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2016, 02:20:56 pm »

Not surprising. Nevada is a swing state. A lot of rugged individualists there like Trump and some Latinos may vote for Trump there. It's translating to the Nevada Senate race, in which Joe Heck could be the next Republican Senator from Nevada.
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2016, 02:20:59 pm »

Instead of 50 posters launching an attack against me for writing "tie" into a heading, you guys should seriously wonder why Hillary's hyped lead has all but disappeared again within a matter of days in a crucial swing state (which Obama won by 7 and 14) ...
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2016, 02:21:09 pm »

Thats not a tie Tender.

It is. It's also what the newspaper writes ...

The header should be "Clinton +1".

You Hillary fetishists had your few days of glory and hype, so don't b*tch and moan around when I write "tie", which is totally accurate for that poll.

In what Universe is Clinton 45, Trump 44, a tie?  Close, yes; tied, no.  You're completely in the wrong here.

He had no problem posting Trump +1 in a MO poll in early September. http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=244808.0

Anyway, I do find Tender descent into full-fledge hack humorous. Bernie lost, dude.....get over it.


There's no difference between C+1 or T+1 or calling it a "tie". Get over my heading ... dude.


There absolutely is.  Just because something is within the margin of error doesn't make it a "tie."  It's not like a result is a 50/50 chance until you exit the margin of error, and it's then suddenly 95%.  Just quit it and fix the title like an adult.
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2016, 02:23:25 pm »

Instead of 50 posters launching an attack against me for writing "tie" into a heading, you guys should seriously wonder why Hillary's hyped lead has all but disappeared again within a matter of days in a crucial swing state (which Obama won by 7 and 14) ...

You should provided titles that accurately represent the poll's results. Stop acting like a moron.
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