Longwood University Vice Presidential debate @ 9pm ET **live commentary thread**

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Kaine is starting to take control, the line about "did Donald trump apologize" was excellent.

Agreed, I don't think Kaine has had a great debate but that was one of the stronger moments so far.

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Pence is refusing to defend Trump, which is his main job. Twitter is starting to notice this trend as well.

That is what Pence has been doing for basically the entire time he's been VP. He's created some kind of alternate reality Trump.

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Pence is probably winning but he has been drug down by Trump. Nobody will remember this debate after tonight, nothing really memorable has happened.

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Kaine is smart to keep hitting him, what Turmp said about nuclear proliferation was weapons grade stupid and something Pence isn't even trying to defend.

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This has been a huge Pence win, but as said earlier, won't matter

Not really, because of Trump Pence is stuck in an unwinnable situation. He can't defend him and isn't really even trying other then shaking his head in disbelief.

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I think Kaine's strategy is to go for broke because he realizes not many people are going to have watched the whole debate. If he goes kitchen sink, there's more of a chance he'll have more strong moments and that they'll be replayed by the media.

Yeah, you can cut up this debate and show Trump's actual statements and Pence isn't going to look so great.

Kaine is smart to just keep hitting him with it.