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« on: October 06, 2016, 11:13:02 AM »
« edited: October 06, 2016, 11:16:46 AM by HillOfANight »
http://www.wthr.com/article/exclusive-wthrhpi-poll-clinton-trump-presidential-race-tightens
Trump 43 (43)
Clinton 38 (36)
Johnson 11 (11)
Undecided 8 (10)
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 11:13:46 AM »
#BattlegroundIndiana
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 11:14:50 AM »
those weak trump numbers at least explain the popular vote....even if he stands his ground better in the rust belt.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 11:16:05 AM »
No Senate/Gubernatorial numbers? Ugh.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 11:16:17 AM »
That's a very ugly number given that their incumbent governor is on the ticket.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 11:18:34 AM »
the incumbent gov got more inpopular in IND during the last year. ^^

first disappointed the ideological right with the religious freedom farce and then the never-trump/moderate votes with becoming the running mate.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 11:23:13 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 11:24:35 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2016, 01:06:03 PM by Fargobison »

Yeah, if he is this weak in Indiana then Iowa/Ohio really have to be slipping away.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2016, 12:16:51 PM »
Quote from: Skill and Chance on October 06, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
If Trump is only up 5, then Bayh should be fine.

Gregg too
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2016, 12:20:12 PM »
Quote from: TN Volunteer on October 06, 2016, 12:17:53 PM
I don't see any reason why the presidential race should have an impact on the Senate or Governors race (see also: Missouri).
Uh, we haven't had a recent poll of Missouri, have we?
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 12:58:10 PM »

Except NH, where he is on the rebound.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2016, 01:01:05 PM »

I wouldn't venture to say that based on one poll when all other results from practically everywhere point towards the opposite.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2016, 01:54:05 PM »
Quote from: Arch on October 06, 2016, 01:01:05 PM

I wouldn't venture to say that based on one poll when all other results from practically everywhere point towards the opposite.

Exactly.  Outliers happen.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2016, 02:31:53 PM »
If this Indiana number is right then Hillary leads in OH and IA. I believe no Indiana poll had Obama within 9 points of Romney in 2012
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 02:57:21 PM »
Is it worth Team Clinton sinking a little bit of $$$ and resources into Indiana?

Might help drag Bayh over the top to run a few TV and radio ads, send Bernie to the campuses out there, and do a little GOTV.
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2016, 03:00:51 PM »
Quote from: NOVA Green on October 06, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
Is it worth Team Clinton sinking a little bit of $$$ and resources into Indiana?

Might help drag Bayh over the top to run a few TV and radio ads, send Bernie to the campuses out there, and do a little GOTV.

Doesn't Bayh already have a lot of money on his own? I'm not against the national campaign supporting the down-ballot races, but Bayh really shouldn't need much of any financial assistance.

I'm also not sure a Clinton campiagn presence actually helps Bayh, because his appeal is that he's different from the national Democratic Party.

Sending Bernie to college campuses is a good idea though, and I don't know why he hasn't done more up to now.
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2016, 03:04:15 PM »
Quote from: heatcharger on October 06, 2016, 03:00:51 PM
Quote from: NOVA Green on October 06, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
Is it worth Team Clinton sinking a little bit of $$$ and resources into Indiana?

Might help drag Bayh over the top to run a few TV and radio ads, send Bernie to the campuses out there, and do a little GOTV.

Doesn't Bayh already have a lot of money on his own? I'm not against the national campaign supporting the down-ballot races, but Bayh really shouldn't need much of any financial assistance.

I'm also not sure a Clinton campiagn presence actually helps Bayh, because his appeal is that he's different from the national Democratic Party.

Sending Bernie to college campuses is a good idea though, and I don't know why he hasn't done more up to now.

Well he has recently been hitting a bunch of places in New England, Upper-Midwest, etc... but not Indiana, although he did do a couple gigs in Minnesota, which at this point looks safer for Clinton than possibly Indiana for Trump.
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2016, 03:42:18 PM »
Only +5? I reckon Trump should be at least 10 points ahead since Pence is on the ticket.

The other polls did show him ahead by double digits but they were the crappy CVoter and google polls whose state numbers are wonky at best
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2016, 03:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Arch on October 06, 2016, 11:16:17 AM
That's a very ugly number given that their incumbent governor is on the ticket.

well remember their incumbent governor is incredibly unpopular.

more proof Pence was a truly stupid choice.
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2016, 05:04:37 PM »
Quote from: Maxwell on October 06, 2016, 03:52:55 PM
Quote from: Arch on October 06, 2016, 11:16:17 AM
That's a very ugly number given that their incumbent governor is on the ticket.

well remember their incumbent governor is incredibly unpopular.

more proof Pence was a truly stupid choice.

Eh not popular but not incredibly unpopular. He almost always has been around 50-50 since the RFRA debacle and was very popular before that.
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2016, 07:22:27 PM »

Ugh indeed. Pollsters are morons.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2016, 09:04:02 PM »
Huge undecided numbers in a strong (Atlas) blue state indicates Trump should survive here without too much difficulty, but even then those numbers aren't encouraging for the overall race.
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2016, 12:14:45 PM »
Those are high numbers for Johnson in the independent category.
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2016, 01:41:54 PM »
Hillary is winning among voters under 35 and women of all ages.  Faith in my adopted home state is (somewhat) restored.

95% of my friends here are millennials.  I run with the arts community and punk soccer supporters, so it's slanted ever so slightly leftward Smiley.  Still, I'm not surprised at this result.
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2016, 02:29:42 PM »
Does WTHR stand for "What The Hell, Republicans?"
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