Morning Consult nat:D:Warren 28% Kaine 16% Booker 9%;R:Pence 22% Ryan 13% Trump 13%

[Mr. Morden]

Morning Consult national poll, conducted Oct. 5-6:

https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Politico_MCPostVPToplines-1.pdf
https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Politico_MCPostVPCrosstabs.pdf

If Trump wins this year, who should be the 2020 Dem. nominee?

Warren 28%
Kaine 16%
Booker 9%
Cuomo 8%
"other" 8%
"don't know" 32%

If Clinton wins this year, who should be the 2020 GOP nominee?

Pence 22%
Ryan 13%
Trump 13%
Cruz 12%
Rubio 11%
Cotton 1%
"other" 4%
"don't know" 17%

Looks like they polled all voters for both questions though, rather than just each party for its own nominee.  So the results are going to be horribly skewed.  Still, it’s all we have to go on at the moment.

Update: Post has been modified now that I found the crosstabs.

[Person Man]

I don't see how Pence or Cruz wins if they are both running. Kasich will win if Rubio doesn't run. Rubio strattles  the neocon/MIC establishment and the fundie vote. That will make him strong or weak depending on how he runs. My ranking at this point is

- Pence
- Cruz
- Kasich
- Rubio

I don't think Ryan wants it though is relatively popular is SotH.

[Mr. Morden]

Am I alone in being surprised that Trump is only at 7% and in 6th place in this poll?  Granted, it's skewed because the poll includes both Dems and Indies as well as Republicans.  But still, since Trump is currently the GOP's presidential nominee, he's getting 1000 times as much media coverage as the other candidates combined.  And still, only 7% of American voters would like to see him as the party's nominee again in 2020?  Really?  That's pathetic.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

The Republican only numbers might be more useful for this exercise:

Pence 22
Trump 13 (86)
Ryan 13 (81)
Cruz 12
Rubio 11
Kasich 7
Cotton 1

If we want to capture indies who might vote in the primary, I'll exclude don't know from both their group and Republicans to get:

Pence 25
Ryan 16
Cruz 15
Trump 13
Rubio 12 (112)
Kasich 12 (106)
Other 7
Cotton 2

[Figueira]

The Republican only numbers might be more useful for this exercise:

Pence 22
Trump 13 (86)
Ryan 13 (81)
Cruz 12
Rubio 11
Kasich 7
Cotton 1

If we want to capture indies who might vote in the primary, I'll exclude don't know from both their group and Republicans to get:

Pence 25
Ryan 16
Cruz 15
Trump 13
Rubio 12 (112)
Kasich 12 (106)
Other 7
Cotton 2

Where are you getting these numbers?

[Potus]

Republican only numbers with Pence at 22% are probably more useful. Either, Trump isn't where he should be.

[Kingpoleon]

Am I alone in being surprised that Trump is only at 7% and in 6th place in this poll?  Granted, it's skewed because the poll includes both Dems and Indies as well as Republicans.  But still, since Trump is currently the GOP's presidential nominee, he's getting 1000 times as much media coverage as the other candidates combined.  And still, only 7% of American voters would like to see him as the party's nominee again in 2020?  Really?  That's pathetic.

"If Donald Trump loses in 2016..."

[Mr. Morden]

Am I alone in being surprised that Trump is only at 7% and in 6th place in this poll?  Granted, it's skewed because the poll includes both Dems and Indies as well as Republicans.  But still, since Trump is currently the GOP's presidential nominee, he's getting 1000 times as much media coverage as the other candidates combined.  And still, only 7% of American voters would like to see him as the party's nominee again in 2020?  Really?  That's pathetic.

"If Donald Trump loses in 2016..."

Sure, I don't doubt that if he does lose, he'll take a hit in his popularity (which already isn't great).  But people tend to be bad at anticipating in advance how their opinion of someone will change conditional on a given hypothetical.

[Mr. Morden]

OK, I found the crosstabs, which tell you the Dem.-only and GOP-only #s:

https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Politico_MCPostVPCrosstabs.pdf

I've updated the OP with the revised #s.  Looks like with the revision, Trump's tied for 2nd place, at 13%.  Pence still leads, while Warren leads with the Dems.

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Nominating Pence means gifting Clinton a second term.

[Mr. Morden]

So is Warren going to be the 2020 Dem. frontrunner going forward?

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

So is Warren going to be the 2020 Dem. frontrunner going forward?

Warren/Booker 2020!

[Mr. Morden]

I will be curious to see if Clinton's loss creates a new conventional wisdom that nominating a woman is more risky, and that the Dems should play it "safe" and avoid nominating one again in 2020.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Warren/Booker or Warren/Castro are the tickets to beat right now for the Dems methinks. I also can't think of any other candidate at the top of the ticket who would be capable of uniting the Democratic Party at this point.

[Reluctant Republican]

Might Sanders try again? I know he'd be rather old but we just elected our oldest president.And frankly he often seemed younger than Clinton. Of course 4 years is a long time, but if Warren really does not want it it seems like he would have a powerful position going forward.

I also think there's a slight chance Clinton tries again, if she wins the popular vote.

[henster]

Might Sanders try again? I know he'd be rather old but we just elected our oldest president.And frankly he often seemed younger than Clinton. Of course 4 years is a long time, but if Warren really does not want it it seems like he would have a powerful position going forward.

I also think there's a slight chance Clinton tries again, if she wins the popular vote.

The bench is not as bad as before the election we have Duckworth, CCM, Harris and maybe Hassan if she pulls thru. Sanders/Warren time has passsd need a younger face against T, Hillary will be shunned in a lot of D circles.

[Person Man]

It really depends on how Dumpster looks like in 2019, right?

[Comrade Funk]

I also think there's a slight chance Clinton tries again, if she wins the popular vote.

Not a chance in hell. She and her brand imploded last night. That era in the Democratic Party is over.

[Chief Justice Keef]

If Bernie's too old to run, I'm leaning towards an Elizabeth Warren/Sherrod Brown ticket. Please don't hate me.

[politics_king]

If Bernie's too old to run, I'm leaning towards an Elizabeth Warren/Sherrod Brown ticket. Please don't hate me.

My gut and intuition tells me a Tulsi Gabbard/Tom Perez ticket would really do wonders in 2020, she's been involved in government since she was 21 and a Major in the Hawaii Army National Guard along with calling out the corruption in the DNC stepping down as Vice-Chair to endorse Bernie Sanders, she has a lot to like plus she practices Hinduism. Tom Perez is extremely popular in the Labor movement, he endorsed Hillary Clinton served in the Obama Adminstration as Labor Secretary and was in the Final 3 with Vilsack & Kaine for VP in 2016. He's popular among people in the party, I think it's a fusion ticket that would work really well against a re-election of Trump/Pence especially if it becomes a dumpster fire.

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

Elizabeth Warren leads! She can win the nomination! See, Beto is polling at 0% now. Betomania is over and Warren will now be the nominee.

[Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️]

Video leaked of Elizabeth Warren as she prepares to launch her 2020 campaign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBxMPqxJGqI