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« on: October 13, 2016, 10:06:48 pm »
« edited: October 13, 2016, 10:09:49 pm by ApatheticAustrian »



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SurveyUSA conducted the poll between Monday and Wednesday of this week – after both the 2005 video in which Trump used lewd comments describing women and the second presidential debate in St. Louis on Sunday night.

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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2016, 10:09:30 pm »

Go Hillary!
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2016, 10:09:53 pm »

Yikes.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2016, 10:09:57 pm »

Johnson on 3%, ayy lmao.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2016, 10:10:04 pm »

Trump did come through on one promise, the map is certainly expanding because of him.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2016, 10:10:25 pm »

Toss-up Texas.   Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2016, 10:11:08 pm »

if true this explains the closer call on the EC and the wide margin on the PV.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2016, 10:12:17 pm »

Toss-up Texas.   Smiley

Lol, not quite.  Trump will probably win the state in the end, but the county map will look apocalyptic for the GOP.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2016, 10:14:36 pm »

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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2016, 10:14:58 pm »

the sound of the titanic sinking turned into numbers
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2016, 10:17:19 pm »

Ok, here's what I don't understand: Out of all of Trump's problems (and there are tons), why is it that the biggest criticism of him from the left seems to be the fact that he won't release his tax returns? Not his racist comments or bragging about sexual assault, but tax returns. Makes zero sense.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 10:17:38 pm »

With Hillary having landslide margins in mega states (California + New York + Illinois), overperforming in red states such as Georgia, and nearly being tied in Texas... the popular is unwinnable for Trump.

His only path to victory is to win the electoral college. Very unlikely that any Obama 2012 will flip to him this year though.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2016, 10:17:58 pm »

If this is true, AZ is definitely winnable.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2016, 10:18:26 pm »

Yikes.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2016, 10:20:43 pm »

Ok, here's what I don't understand: Out of all of Trump's problems (and there are tons), why is it that the biggest criticism of him from the left seems to be the fact that he won't release his tax returns? Not his racist comments or bragging about sexual assault, but tax returns. Makes zero sense.

besides the robin-hood-syndrome (as a liberal i am victim of it too) and the general feeling even a good rich guy would demoralize his blue-collar-support.......trump is the effing opposite of a good rich guy, he is a trickster's trickster and since we at the beginning assumed he just would wait for a good timing...there must be more bombshells in it than you could imagine.

atm i guess, releasing the unretracted tax returns would fill the newscycle till the election and then some.
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2016, 10:21:02 pm »

Ok, here's what I don't understand: Out of all of Trump's problems (and there are tons), why is it that the biggest criticism of him from the left seems to be the fact that he won't release his tax returns? Not his racist comments or bragging about sexual assault, but tax returns. Makes zero sense.

oh the left hates his racist comments and bragging about sexual assault more, but in my opinion the tax returns thing is a better target for mid-to-low information middle classish voters who are willing to give Trump slack on racist comments ("he's talking about illegals!") and the tapes ("I've heard people talk like that").
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2016, 10:22:16 pm »

With Hillary having landslide margins in mega states (California + New York + Illinois), overperforming in red states such as Georgia, and nearly being tied in Texas... the popular is unwinnable for Trump.

His only path to victory is to win the electoral college. Very unlikely that any Obama 2012 will flip to him this year though.

ohio and iowa are absolutely possible in my humble opinion.....the sun belt/east coast are going to counter it anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2016, 10:23:19 pm »

Yeah, 43% is about what Hillary will get in the state.
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2016, 10:23:50 pm »

BTW - Wulfric, your sig is even more insufferable.
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2016, 10:29:35 pm »

Toss-up Texas.   Smiley

Lol, not quite.  Trump will probably win the state in the end, but the county map will look apocalyptic for the GOP.

Actually, in terms of simple D-R counties, the TX county map would change remarkably little compared to 2008/2012 (assuming a very loose uniform swing). It'd mainly be a case of county margins either expanding or contracting.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2016, 10:34:42 pm »

Clinton should forget about Arizona and Georgia and just go all in on Texas imo
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2016, 10:38:34 pm »

If this is true, AZ is definitely winnable.

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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2016, 10:41:56 pm »

Yeah, 43% is about what Hillary will get in the state.

That's right, think positive.
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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2016, 10:43:04 pm »
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Toss-up Texas.   Smiley

Lol, not quite.  Trump will probably win the state in the end, but the county map will look apocalyptic for the GOP.

Actually, in terms of simple D-R counties, the TX county map would change remarkably little compared to 2008/2012 (assuming a very loose uniform swing). It'd mainly be a case of county margins either expanding or contracting.

Yeah, that's what I meant.  It's going to be really uncomfortable for the GOP to see some of their reliably and overwhelmingly red suburban counties, like Tarrant, fall within single digits of going to the Democrats.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2016, 10:43:34 pm »

Clinton should forget about Arizona and Georgia and just go all in on Texas imo

That would be a nice moral victory for Clinton, for sure. To win Texas.

But I think Georgia and Arizona are more winnable. Clinton has lead in polls in occasion on both states, and in Arizona there is a good possibility of Joe Arpaio being defeated in Maricopa County. He is down by 10 points according to a Republican poll.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/13/1581957/-It-s-really-happening-New-poll-shows-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-down-10-points-and-it-s-from-a-Republican

Hmm, if Clinton wins Texas which populated counties could she flip? I would think Tarrant County and Fort Bend County.
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