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« on: October 25, 2016, 07:08:03 PM »

Geez, relax y'all.  FiveThirtyEight's model puts Clinton at +3.6 in Florida.  This thing has a +/-2.8% MoE, which means everything from Trump +2.0 to Clinton +9.2 is within the MoE.  But we have plenty of evidence that shows Clinton has a lead of several points here, so complaining that this is within the MoE is silly.  The vast majority of competitive state polling is within the MoE.  Because the MoE is generally about as big as the margin we say means a state is no longer competitive.  It's not a "statistical tie" (shudder) when you have 10 polls that all aggregate to Clinton +3, even if an individual poll with Clinton +3 is solidly within the MoE.

This poll consistent with previous polls, consistent with where you would expect Florida to be relative to national average demographically, and consistent with a body of evidence that shows Clinton is an overwhelming favorite to win, probably by something like +6 nationally.  The overreaction to individual polls here gets tedious.

There you go again, trying to use math and logic on Atlas.

On the one hand, you can't people for being concerned and absolutely disgusted that a candidate such as Donald Trump could come close to being appealing to 45/100 of the people around them. On the other hand, you'd think that the shock of that now long-holding reality would being fading and would have evolved more into a smoldering gloom about human nature rather than an emotional distress anymore.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2016, 07:21:19 PM »

Any candidate on either side in Florida who does not eat babies or is not Katherine Harris is getting a minimum of 44/45%.

yep.

I'm concerned.  It does look like Trump has gained the equivalent of 1-2% nationally since the 3rd debate.

It what legitimate polls has Trump gained in?

I can't find any. HuffPo's Pollster is showing basically an identical margin for all of October so far.
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