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jokerman
Cosmo Kramer
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« on: July 06, 2005, 09:10:26 PM »
« edited: July 06, 2005, 09:15:45 PM by Senator Preston Caldwell »

Well, hell.  California and Vermont must represent the whole damn nation, then!
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jokerman
Cosmo Kramer
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2005, 09:25:41 PM »

Well, sh**t.  California and Vermont must represent the whole damn nation, then!

Why are they less important than anything else with 58 electoral votes?
I can think of about 200 EC votes at least that Democrats have lost to the Republicans because of their abandoment of populism.  And California isn't even nessicariliy libertarian.  It's got a high populist latino population and the river-valley area is populist.  Sure, we've gained maybe 100 EC votes due to our shift.  But you can't deny that we aren't doing too well.  The new deal coalition trimumphed much more than our current Democratic coalitition has.  If you need any proof, just look at the party affiliation of Presidents.  We had many Democratic Presidents in the past, not so many now.  And the only Democratic Presidents we've had is Carter, who was a southern populist, and Clinton who was a Southern moderate with populist rhetoric at least.
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jokerman
Cosmo Kramer
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2005, 09:06:10 PM »

Big deal, Social issues cost the Democrats the South.

1976: Carter wins every state in the South but Virginia.

2004: Kerry loses every Southern state.

Correct, PBrunsel - tolerance wins on the coasts, intolerance in the South. 

Not exactly big news.

By that logic, morality wins the South and immorality wins on the coasts.
Yep
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jokerman
Cosmo Kramer
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2005, 03:46:55 PM »

It gets tiresome with all the stupid newbies that's been invading the forum
You sound like someone from DU or DailyKos saying that
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