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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2016, 05:17:38 pm »


decimals are from hell.
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2016, 05:20:08 pm »

Hopefully this junk is just a 2016 thing.
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2016, 05:36:37 pm »

Clinton only losing whites by 7 (44-51) but Trump's outperforming with Blacks and Latino's - Clinton only up 67/28 with blacks and 60-35 with Latino's.

Obama lost whites by 15 in 2012 and won the state by 5. Hmmmm
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2016, 05:44:12 pm »

Entering these into the database is a mistake. These are (R) polls from a new firm with no history. We should treat them at minimum as skeptically as we do PPP polls for clients. At minimum.
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2016, 08:15:13 pm »

hahahaha
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2016, 08:16:04 pm »

This actually caused PA to move towards Clinton on 538. I guess, since PA is so safe D, this bumped Trafalgar's House Effect R-wards, which influenced NH/MI averages more than this influenced PA.

Also, yeah, this does suggest a serious design flaw in Nate's model.
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2016, 06:13:19 pm »

Did Sucksquehanna change its name to Trafalgar? 
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2016, 06:22:16 pm »

Did Sucksquehanna change its name to Trafalgar? 

No. She won their poll by like 2.
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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2016, 02:14:39 am »

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« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2016, 02:25:06 am »

Freedom Poll!
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« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2016, 04:01:39 am »

Did Sucksquehanna change its name to Trafalgar? 

Maybe Susquehanna should change its name to Trafalgar.  LOL. 
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« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2016, 04:35:01 am »

How did they do it? They were so good Shocked
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« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2016, 08:46:48 pm »

So sad to see how people laughed at this poll while they did not realize that this would turn out to be one of the most accurate Pennsylvania polls.
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« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2016, 09:01:14 am »

What the hell of a poll...
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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2016, 01:26:56 pm »

And when someone like me would point to a poll like this, I was mocked and ridiculed on this board.
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2016, 03:27:52 pm »

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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2016, 07:06:45 am »

Trafalgar's methodology has become a gold standard on polling (though they overestimated Trump in FL, but they were right in OH, PA and MI) in 2016.
In the past, I would just dismiss it as a garbage.
Now I've had several eggs on my face; these eggs messed my face so much to the point that it masked my face.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2017, 07:51:10 pm »

LOL,,,,

Trafalgar is pretty much a fake poll.
So much for the fake poll
Lol😅😂🤣😅😀😃😄🤣😅😂😄😀😅🤣😄😂😂😄😂😆😂😂😂
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