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« on: November 01, 2016, 03:32:55 PM »
« edited: November 01, 2016, 03:34:57 PM by Ozymandias »

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1792.html

Clinton - 44
Trump - 35
Johnson - 8

10/20-11/1, 2269 respondents, 1.9% MOE
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 03:33:37 PM »

Way too many undecideds and I've never heard of them.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 03:33:47 PM »

Buhhhhhh meh Trump and Comey surge!
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2016, 03:34:43 PM »

Way too many undecideds and I've never heard of them.

Really? I mean, 9 is obviously an outlier at this point, but even I've heard of RAND.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2016, 03:35:20 PM »

Not believing Johnson at 8% this late in the game.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2016, 03:35:28 PM »

Way too many undecideds and I've never heard of them.

How have you never heard of Rand?
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2016, 03:36:56 PM »

aren't those the original tracker pollsters?
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2016, 03:38:02 PM »

Didn't this pollster release some atrocious poll earlier
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2016, 03:38:39 PM »

538 lists them as B- with a negligible bias, but that's based on only 3 polls.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2016, 03:39:02 PM »

Way too many undecideds and I've never heard of them.

538 had RAND ranked as the fourth best pollster in 2012: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2016, 03:40:17 PM »

Previous:

Clinton: 43
Trump: 33
Johnson: 10

Conducted September 12-25.


So the race is about as at Sep 12-25. Consistent.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2016, 03:40:47 PM »

Yey, RAND is back! A wee bit old though, which is annoying.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2016, 03:41:40 PM »

Beautiful! Thank you America for seeing through Comey's BS!
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2016, 03:43:00 PM »

Pre-Comey, too many undecideds, Johnson too high. Junk.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2016, 03:44:05 PM »

Rand was fairly accurate in 2012 if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2016, 03:44:21 PM »

Pre-Comey, too many undecideds, Johnson too high. Junk.

The poll includes 4-5 post-Comey days.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2016, 03:44:40 PM »

The divergence between national polls and the state polls has grown ludicrous.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2016, 03:45:46 PM »

The divergence between national polls and the state polls has grown ludicrous.

The divergence between all polls has grown way to ludicrous
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2016, 03:47:33 PM »

Pre-Comey, too many undecideds, Johnson too high. Junk.

The poll includes 4-5 post-Comey days.

Not nearly enough when it starts at 10/20. Having too long of a field period is always bad.
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2016, 03:47:36 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2016, 03:49:31 PM »

It's on the high side (outlier).
But still good news, even if you bring down the number.
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2016, 03:54:08 PM »

Not believing Johnson at 8% this late in the game.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2016, 03:56:36 PM »

Can we at least say, once again, with vigor, that this dispels the notion that the LAT/Dornsife poll is "based on the RAND Panel" and is therefore good to go? Please?
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2016, 03:57:04 PM »

Can we at least say, once again, with vigor, that this dispels the notion that the LAT/Dornsife poll is "based on the RAND Panel" and is therefore good to go? Please?
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2016, 03:57:49 PM »

Can we at least say, once again, with vigor, that this dispels the notion that the LAT/Dornsife poll is "based on the RAND Panel" and is therefore good to go? Please?
This idiocy was advanced by The Vorlon.
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