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« Reply #175 on: November 02, 2016, 07:38:35 PM »

A clerical note on Florida: Today was the final day where voters were allowed to request a VBM ballot. So the VBM requests lock in after tomorrow. It's all about returning them now. I think (and Schale might think this too) that the GOP is cannibalizing some of their E-Day turnout with the VBM since this is the first time 2012 and 2014 active voters were mailed ballots
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« Reply #176 on: November 02, 2016, 07:38:59 PM »

Florida updates are in the early morning, US East Coast time. They usually make 3 or 4
Thanks. Currently R are about 18,000 votes ahead, if that holds up to the Election Day then I can't see Trump losing it. D won it by 177,000 in 2012 apparently so a big difference.
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« Reply #177 on: November 02, 2016, 07:40:01 PM »

Florida updates are in the early morning, US East Coast time. They usually make 3 or 4
Thanks. Currently R are about 18,000 votes ahead, if that holds up to the Election Day then I can't see Trump losing it. D won it by 177,000 in 2012 apparently so a big difference.

Dems won the early in-person vote by that much but lost the VBM by about 80K so Obama had a 90K or so lead in Party ID going into E-Day. He won FL by 64K
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« Reply #178 on: November 02, 2016, 07:40:05 PM »

A clerical note on Florida: Today was the final day where voters were allowed to request a VBM ballot. So the VBM requests lock in after tomorrow. It's all about returning them now. I think (and Schale might think this too) that the GOP is cannibalizing some of their E-Day turnout with the VBM since this is the first time 2012 and 2014 active voters were mailed ballots

Wouldn't the cannibalization also be true of people who voted Democratic in 2012/14?
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« Reply #179 on: November 02, 2016, 07:41:42 PM »

A clerical note on Florida: Today was the final day where voters were allowed to request a VBM ballot. So the VBM requests lock in after tomorrow. It's all about returning them now. I think (and Schale might think this too) that the GOP is cannibalizing some of their E-Day turnout with the VBM since this is the first time 2012 and 2014 active voters were mailed ballots

Wouldn't the cannibalization also be true of people who voted Democratic in 2012/14?

Possible. But Schale is saying that the Dems are getting more low-propensity voters to the polls
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« Reply #180 on: November 02, 2016, 07:44:41 PM »

1) dem 2014 voters are a joke.
2) in fact yes, that's why there are surprisingly more total dem mail ballot votes than republican ones. (not returned yet)
3) since the dems bled in reg numbers, this is more like unveiling true voter numbers.
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« Reply #181 on: November 02, 2016, 07:45:39 PM »

Florida updates are in the early morning, US East Coast time. They usually make 3 or 4
Thanks. Currently R are about 18,000 votes ahead, if that holds up to the Election Day then I can't see Trump losing it. D won it by 177,000 in 2012 apparently so a big difference.

Dems won the early in-person vote by that much but lost the VBM by about 80K so Obama had a 90K or so lead in Party ID going into E-Day. He won FL by 64K
Yep- and if 100k Dixiecrats switch registration, we could lose the EV-ID by 50k and still win.
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« Reply #182 on: November 02, 2016, 07:47:23 PM »

Florida updates are in the early morning, US East Coast time. They usually make 3 or 4
Thanks. Currently R are about 18,000 votes ahead, if that holds up to the Election Day then I can't see Trump losing it. D won it by 177,000 in 2012 apparently so a big difference.

Dems won the early in-person vote by that much but lost the VBM by about 80K so Obama had a 90K or so lead in Party ID going into E-Day. He won FL by 64K
Yep- and if 100k Dixiecrats switch registration, we could lose the EV-ID by 50k and still win.

That would be a tall order. I think we have to be even at the very worst. I'd prefer to be 75K ahead at the worst to feel confident
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« Reply #183 on: November 02, 2016, 07:52:20 PM »

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/early-voting-results-2012-083176

I read 43-40 for Democrats, that's around 130K.
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« Reply #184 on: November 02, 2016, 08:23:07 PM »

Not sure how many times I have to remind people that Rs =! votes for Trump in FL. Cuban R crossovers. We've seen it in Latino Decisions, early voting polls of FL, and so forth.
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« Reply #185 on: November 02, 2016, 08:26:16 PM »

Repubs win Washoe again by almost 500 (remember, R's outvoted D's in Washoe in Week 2 of early voting in 2012).

GOP: 3,940
DEM: 3,459

Clark looks very good today so far so the Clark firewall will get bigger
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« Reply #186 on: November 02, 2016, 08:26:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/793987244533096448

31,300 have voted so far in Clark today. The freiwal is getting taller, folks!
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« Reply #187 on: November 02, 2016, 08:31:21 PM »

this is crazy.

either HRC has magical turnout-skills cause of her rally..or you can really predict the dem turnout for each weekday.
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« Reply #188 on: November 02, 2016, 08:34:35 PM »


That's what I wanna hear. Make NH+ME-02 disappear from the math.
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« Reply #189 on: November 02, 2016, 08:36:24 PM »


That's what I wanna hear. Make NH+ME-02 disappear from the math.

That's why you're seeing Trump going back to MI, WI, CO, NM. He's fishing for a different path because his NV casino path looks foreclosed
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« Reply #190 on: November 02, 2016, 08:37:59 PM »

Repubs win Washoe again by almost 500 (remember, R's outvoted D's in Washoe in Week 2 of early voting in 2012).

GOP: 3,940
DEM: 3,459

Clark looks very good today so far so the Clark firewall will get bigger

Why are the republicans winning Washoe?
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« Reply #191 on: November 02, 2016, 08:38:37 PM »

i would haaaate it if johnson ruins NM....no high-quality poll....
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« Reply #192 on: November 02, 2016, 08:48:28 PM »

Repubs win Washoe again by almost 500 (remember, R's outvoted D's in Washoe in Week 2 of early voting in 2012).

GOP: 3,940
DEM: 3,459

Clark looks very good today so far so the Clark firewall will get bigger

Why are the republicans winning Washoe?

R-friendly swing area
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« Reply #193 on: November 02, 2016, 08:57:26 PM »

Repubs win Washoe again by almost 500 (remember, R's outvoted D's in Washoe in Week 2 of early voting in 2012).

GOP: 3,940
DEM: 3,459

Clark looks very good today so far so the Clark firewall will get bigger

Why are the republicans winning Washoe?

Rs usually win Washoe. They won Washoe in 2012 when Obama easily won NV. Frankly, the fact that Rs aren't already ahead there should bother them greatly.
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« Reply #194 on: November 02, 2016, 09:00:57 PM »

Someone made this helpful visual tool that updates based on new information from electproject.org:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/publish/usevmap/Dashboard1#!/publish-confirm
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« Reply #195 on: November 02, 2016, 09:03:15 PM »

I did some math for Duval County's turnout today. Dems actually beat the GOP by 82 votes (combined VBM and early vote)
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« Reply #196 on: November 02, 2016, 09:03:53 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2016, 09:05:43 PM by Holmes »

Repubs win Washoe again by almost 500 (remember, R's outvoted D's in Washoe in Week 2 of early voting in 2012).

GOP: 3,940
DEM: 3,459

Clark looks very good today so far so the Clark firewall will get bigger

Why are the republicans winning Washoe?

Rs usually win Washoe. They won Washoe in 2012 when Obama easily won NV. Frankly, the fact that Rs aren't already ahead there should bother them greatly.

Obama won Washoe in 2012 by almost 4%. I can see Clinton winning it by a modest 5% this year, with Clark going bigger for Clinton this year than in 2012, when Obama won it by about 15%. Washoe has a Republican registration advantage but it's becoming more Democratic. Ultimately, it's all up to turnout (but even more ultimately, the state is really decided by Clark county).
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« Reply #197 on: November 02, 2016, 09:06:43 PM »

Repubs win Washoe again by almost 500 (remember, R's outvoted D's in Washoe in Week 2 of early voting in 2012).

GOP: 3,940
DEM: 3,459

Clark looks very good today so far so the Clark firewall will get bigger

Why are the republicans winning Washoe?

Rs usually win Washoe. They won Washoe in 2012 when Obama easily won NV. Frankly, the fact that Rs aren't already ahead there should bother them greatly.

Obama won Washoe in 2012 by almost 4%. I can see Clinton winning it by a modest 5% this year, with Clark going bigger for Clinton this year than in 2012, when Obama won it by about 15%. Washoe has a Republican registration advantage but it's becoming more Democrat. Ultimately, it's all up to turnout (but even more ultimately, the state is really decided by Clark county).

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant in the early vote. Rs won the early vote by 500 votes in 2012. If Dems even break even in Washoe EV, Nevada's way over (which we already know from Clark).
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« Reply #198 on: November 02, 2016, 09:08:35 PM »

Steve Schale ‏@steveschale  10s10 seconds ago
I see you Orange County!
19,682 in-person early votes (biggest day by 2500)
Dems +3300, plus another 5500 NPA voters #wow
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« Reply #199 on: November 02, 2016, 09:11:07 PM »

while nv rund with it and fl improves....question marks over CO regarding that new high-qual poll. i hate this election. ^^
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