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Junior Chimp
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« on: November 02, 2016, 12:19:14 PM »


wow

Republican surge in Nevada. Early Voting 2nd week (11/2 9AM)
http://nvsos.gov/sos/home/showdocument?id=4555
In Person: DEM 39.89%  REP 37.79% Other 22.32%

Now Nevada=Likely TRUMP
Go away troll.
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 12:34:14 PM »

Statespoll, of course, is only publishing the week 2 numbers, which are solely the Democrats' worst 2 days of every cycle, and ignoring the week one numbers, where Democrats won the early vote by 9 points. Intellectually dishonest!
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 01:42:35 PM »

lol....come on now already....

Obama a SITTING president lost NC where the AA community came out in droves to vote for him still lost the state by close to 100,000 votes to Mitt Romney LOL. But yes HRC is going to flip a state Obama wasn't able too last cycle, literally comical.
Clinton is not dependent on record turnout from African Americans to win North Carolina.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 01:49:08 PM »

GG, good luck next election.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 02:03:44 PM »

You cherrypick that ridiculous SUSA poll and can't even support your conclusion. Incredible!
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 12:18:58 AM »

The early vote numbers in North Carolina have been insane the last day or two. So much for African Americans not voting.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 02:01:01 PM »

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If they get to 13% then you pretty much put FL in her column.
Reports of the demise of the black vote this election were heavily exaggerated.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 02:13:31 PM »

On Upshot's NC vote tracker, they have over half the total vote as in, and Hillary winning already-submitted votes by 10. That means Trump has to win remaining votes by at least 10 to carry the state. Not to mention 4 more days of early voting at current support numbers (roughly 50/50, if we're being conservative). That means Trump would have to win the election day vote pretty overwhelmingly unless things shift his way in the state right now. So, even if that Trump +7 poll was accurate and that's how people vote for the remainder of the election, he'd still lose the state overall.

Somebody please double-check my math, because it sounds a bit Karl Rovey when I read it back to myself.

It is based on a single Sienna/Upshot poll with Clinton +7. If the poll was right and the race has not changed since    OCT. 20-23, Trump is done.
I believe that Sienna is recontacting the poll's respondents to measure whether they have voted early or not and who they voted for, and is then making a projection for the rest of the state.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 02:16:24 PM »

it's simple.

if cohn's model is even in the same universe than reality, than NC is clinton's and if she wins NC, she also wins high-educated CO/VA/NH.

That model no longer applies.

Pubs are coming home, including the educated Pubs. They are declaring themselves "undecided" in most recent polls, but expect that "undecided" is a codeword for shy Trump.

Shy Trump voters are not a thing.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 03:37:56 PM »

Keating has Clinton +4 among EV in Colorado with an even party registration in their poll.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 08:02:27 PM »

i think the daily comments of cohn regarding this matter have been VERY confusing.
Cohn tried to have it both ways a lot of the time.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 09:05:39 PM »

Rather, I think his point is that 70% of all people will vote early, so distinguishing between early voters only and all voters won't actually be a big difference.
Polls say it will.
Huh
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 09:45:53 PM »

This is the same pattern from 2012... guess who got it right?
Latino Decisions!
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016, 09:49:13 PM »

Also, I'd rather be the person worrying about people leaving lines during early voting because so many supporters are turning out rather than a person worrying about smooth sailing because no one is voting at all.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 10:36:32 PM »

We are currently seeing unprecedented levels of early voting in Nevada tonight. Wow!

Jon Ralston ‏@RalstonReports  3m3 minutes ago
"We will not turn people away," Election Dept spox tells me, saying voting places will stay open as long as it takes.
cc: Adelson News
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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2016, 10:43:27 PM »

Crazy.
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2016, 11:14:40 PM »

Game changer right there.
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2016, 11:47:17 PM »

Seriously? is literally covered in dogsweat.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2016, 11:53:16 PM »

The election day vote in Colorado (so much as it exists) is heavily Democratic.
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2016, 11:55:40 PM »

Seriously? is also counting his eggs before the hatch, since early voting is ongoing in Clark County and the final percentage for week 2 of the early vote is likely to shift with the inclusion of Friday's numbers.
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2016, 12:19:16 AM »

Aren't the CO numbers a bit odd to you as well ?

Only 1.66 million ballots have been returned so far and there are only Monday and Tuesday left to return ballots.

Final turnout in 2012 was 2.6 million.

It's pretty unlikely that there are 300K returned on Monday and Tuesday, when it was 100-150K each day now.

That suggests turnout will be much lower in CO this year, somwhere between 2-2.5 million votes (unless there's a surge of election day voters).
Mail-ins surge in the final days. Anecdotally, people here are very lazy.
Tender is just being obtuse.
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2016, 12:30:03 AM »

57k in Clark County as of 10 pm.
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2016, 08:16:33 AM »

Democrats retook the lead in Florida to the tune of 8k votes out of 5.7 million today.
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2016, 08:17:00 AM »

Republicans up 17 among whites! Cheesy And bear in mind CNN is by no means pro-Trump.

That's a terrible number for Florida (the state they were referring to. Romney won Florida whites by 24
Yeah, that's, um, a disaster for Republicans. Points towards a high single digit Clinton win in the state.
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 10:30:38 AM »

This, is, um, terribly flawed analysis. Basically sets up a straw man of Ralston's argument, and proceeds to use terrible assumptions to defeat it.
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