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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2016, 10:39:24 pm »
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i think, besides question of midwest/NH-turnout, clinton is in the good by now.

and funny that WI seems to be safer right now than MI/PA. (could be a trick.....wish all states would have EV.)

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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2016, 10:44:16 pm »
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I'm still not entirely convinced the states are complete toss ups. Clinton has hit 50% in 2 recent MI polls. I thought VA was safe but apparently not. And it's others on this forum that have been predicting Gillespie redux, I've had VA red in even my most panicked predictions.
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2016, 10:46:40 pm »
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Hillary is in danger of losing the election if this email scandal shows any more "dodgy" behind-the-scenes behaviour.

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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2016, 11:12:40 pm »
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Nope!
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2016, 11:39:50 pm »
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Both would be a substantial surprise.

Michigan is the more likely of the two.
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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2016, 04:39:26 am »
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It doesn't matter.  She'll die from her rare neurological disorder before election day.
I heard her spleen is full of pus and it's causing her not to be able to digest food and her liver's shot because of the inordinate amount of booze she drinks.

Many people are saying that.
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2016, 04:55:18 am »
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MI will be the shocker of the night. Just wait 4 days.
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2016, 06:31:25 am »
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She'll win both in the end, but she'd have a greater danger of losing Michigan than she would Virginia this cycle.
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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2016, 06:39:35 am »
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Not if current trends are any indication. Comeystag rolling off the calendar helps too
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What this election has revealed to me is that our American political factions hold no respect for one another, and that this disrespect has reached the personal level. If we make it through the next four years, I can only pray that our party does something to remedy this, because until we have removed all of our "deplorable" rhetoric from our systems, this nation is hopeless.
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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2016, 06:56:08 am »
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Not very likely.
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2016, 07:09:06 am »
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Michigan maybe.

Looking at the polls with Clinton having a narrow lead nationwide, and yet enjoying substantial leads in NY, CA and VA, up in NC and FL, polling as expected in WI, MN, PA, CO and much closer than a Dem normally is in TX, GA, AZ - so where is Trump strong for the national polls to be close? Part of that is OH, part MO but he also has to be closer than a Republican normally is somewhere unexpected, and MI seems ripe for that.
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2016, 07:12:49 am »
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he is very strong in new england.....compared to his predecessors.
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2016, 07:29:42 am »
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Michigan maybe.

Looking at the polls with Clinton having a narrow lead nationwide, and yet enjoying substantial leads in NY, CA and VA, up in NC and FL, polling as expected in WI, MN, PA, CO and much closer than a Dem normally is in TX, GA, AZ - so where is Trump strong for the national polls to be close? Part of that is OH, part MO but he also has to be closer than a Republican normally is somewhere unexpected, and MI seems ripe for that.
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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2016, 08:20:12 am »
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There is no data whatsoever to support a Trump victory in either of these.  Since September 1, Trump has not won a single poll in Michigan.  Not even one.  Out of 47.  And Trump has won three polls in Virginia.  Out of 50.  And two of those were Google junk polls.

If he wins either of these, it would be utterly shocking.  As shocking as Clinton winning Georgia, where Clinton has won exactly one poll since 9/1.
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2016, 08:32:14 am »
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Virginia no, Michigan maybe, we need more polls.
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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2016, 09:17:12 am »
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only Michigan
She wins VA by about 8-10
Michigan is a nailbiter
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