MI: Strategic National (R) - TIE

[Terry the Fat Shark]

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/04/exclusive-poll-trump-clinton-tied-in-michigan/
Trump - 44
Clinton - 44
Johnson - 4
Stein - 3

[dspNY]

Another junk Republican pollster flooding the zone

[Speed of Sound]

daily caller lul. If they can't make up a Trump lead, MI's over.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

I feel bad because I'm kind of flooding with junk polls but something something every data point matters

[Antonio the Sixth]

Oh ffs, someone need to put an end to this trash poll madness.

[QE]

Ugh. I saw this trash poll earlier and knew it would make an appearance on this board before too long.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Stategic Nation, Traglafar, Brietbart/Gravis, etc etc etc.

It's really pathetic...

[Speed of Sound]

I feel bad because I'm kind of flooding with junk polls but something something every data point matters

Hey, no shooting the messenger. Thanks for posting them. If nothing else, they're good for a chuckle and a warning on the future of polling.

[Southern Delegate matthew27]

Seems that nearly every poll is either junk. Why do them if you're not going to try to be accurate?

[GeorgiaModerate]

This pollster had MI as C+1 a few days ago: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=250676.  But I've never heard of the firm before; do they have any track record?

[Ronnie]

All these awful polls are just going to lead to another Nate Silver #hottake.

[bilaps]

Stategic Nation, Traglafar, Brietbart/Gravis, etc etc etc.

It's really pathetic...

you forgot ppp

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Seems that nearly every poll is either junk. Why do them if you're not going to try to be accurate?

Because they are propaganda, not polls.  The alt-right are fascists.  Don't forget this.

[Spark]

This is bad polling, but Hillary will win by 2.

[Sir Mohamed]

What heck is wrong? That many junk polls out these weeks?

Honestly, I think we should now forget about the polls and just wait a couple more days to see the outcome.

[QE]

The individual who runs his firm, John Yob, is heavily invested in creating a battleground narrative in Michigan. If he can convince Trump and the RNC to flood the state with resources, then maybe the MIGOP can keep the State House and win other down-ballot races.

[GeorgiaModerate]

The individual who runs his firm, John Yob, is heavily invested in creating a battleground narrative in Michigan. If he can convince Trump and the RNC to flood the state with resources, then maybe the MIGOP can keep the State House and win other down-ballot races.

Is that the same John Yob that was involved in the controversy over the VI delegation to the GOP convention?

[QE]

The individual who runs his firm, John Yob, is heavily invested in creating a battleground narrative in Michigan. If he can convince Trump and the RNC to flood the state with resources, then maybe the MIGOP can keep the State House and win other down-ballot races.

Is that the same John Yob that was involved in the controversy over the VI delegation to the GOP convention?

Yes.

[win win]

HYOOOOOGE
MI IN SERIOUS CONTENTION

[JJC]

Re-posting on why I've been saying MI is a dark horse:

MI GOP primary;

2012: 996,499 voters. Romney 41% - Santorum 38%
2016: 1,323,589 voters. Trump 36% - Cruz 24%

That's a lot of voters coming out for Trump in the primary, which was never even competitive. In fact, more people voted in the GOP primary than the dem primary (1,205,552), and that race was extremely competitive (Sanders 49% - Clinton 48%). Unfortunately I could not compare GOP vs Dems primary numbers in previous elections because for democrats in 2008 the state was uncontested (because of a rule violation) and in 2004/2000 the state was a caucus.

Not saying primary support is necessarily indicative of general performance in any way, but the GOP outvoting the dems in blue MI should be at least some cause for concern among democrats. Trump's message plays really well among white-working class voters and union members - both of which MI has in abundant (Sanders did too). The state was almost tailor-made for him - were it not for the fact that it leans so heavily dem.

MI and VA are my two dark horses.

[Ebsy]

Re-posting on why I've been saying MI is a dark horse:

MI GOP primary;

2012: 996,499 voters. Romney 41% - Santorum 38%
2016: 1,323,589 voters. Trump 36% - Cruz 24%

That's a lot of voters coming out for Trump in the primary, which was never even competitive. In fact, more people voted in the GOP primary than the dem primary (1,205,552), and that race was extremely competitive (Sanders 49% - Clinton 48%). Unfortunately I could not compare GOP vs Dems primary numbers in previous elections because for democrats in 2008 the state was uncontested (because of a rule violation) and in 2004/2000 the state was a caucus.

Not saying primary support is necessarily indicative of general performance in any way, but the GOP outvoting the dems in blue MI should be at least some cause for concern among democrats. Trump's message plays really well among white-working class voters and union members - both of which MI has in abundant (Sanders did too). The state was almost tailor-made for him - were it not for the fact that it leans so heavily dem.

MI and VA are my two dark horses.

Are you braindead?

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Re-posting on why I've been saying MI is a dark horse:

MI GOP primary;

2012: 996,499 voters. Romney 41% - Santorum 38%
2016: 1,323,589 voters. Trump 36% - Cruz 24%

That's a lot of voters coming out for Trump in the primary, which was never even competitive. In fact, more people voted in the GOP primary than the dem primary (1,205,552), and that race was extremely competitive (Sanders 49% - Clinton 48%). Unfortunately I could not compare GOP vs Dems primary numbers in previous elections because for democrats in 2008 the state was uncontested (because of a rule violation) and in 2004/2000 the state was a caucus.

Not saying primary support is necessarily indicative of general performance in any way, but the GOP outvoting the dems in blue MI should be at least some cause for concern among democrats. Trump's message plays really well among white-working class voters and union members - both of which MI has in abundant (Sanders did too). The state was almost tailor-made for him - were it not for the fact that it leans so heavily dem.

MI and VA are my two dark horses.

Are you braindead?

I think he might be Bill Mitchell in disguise

[Lief 🗽]

The Michigan Republican primary was the competitive one.  It was basically a three-way race, with Kasich surging in the end. No one thought the Michigan Democratic primary would be competitive; Clinton was supposed to win by 20 points.

[Erich Maria Remarque]

Trump will narrowly win here.

[Kalimantan]

Seems that nearly every poll is either junk. Why do them if you're not going to try to be accurate?

Are you looking for an answer more complicated than "to. make. money" ?