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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2016, 03:03:00 pm »
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Seems that nearly every poll is either junk. Why do them if you're not going to try to be accurate?

Are you looking for an answer more complicated than "to. make. money" ?
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2016, 03:36:19 pm »
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Trump's gonna have to win Michigan or Pennsylvania.  Tall order but not impossible
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2016, 04:45:31 pm »
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Another junk Republican pollster flooding the zone

so is PeePeePee
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 04:46:13 pm »
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Another junk Republican pollster flooding the zone

so is PeePeePee

Thank God for only 3 more days of this s[Inks].
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2016, 06:17:53 pm »
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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2016, 06:31:52 pm »
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Keep telling yourselves that.
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2016, 01:00:10 pm »
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I will. So will Michigan's 16 electors come December 19.

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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2016, 05:05:42 pm »
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It is interesting how few polls in the last week or so of the election actually had Michigan as a tie or Trump leaning, or even showed the race as remarkably close.

You had this 538 unranked pollster showing the race as a tie, a SurveyMonkey (C +2), Trafalgar Group (T+2), and a Google Consumer Surveys showing C+1. These are all relatively questionable polling firms

Meanwhile the EpicMarist (A-) showed it as C+4 with a large number of "others" and "undecideds".

Ipsos was arguably the closest of the higher quality polling firms (538 A-) showing C+1 with relatively few undecided and 3rd party voters.

I guess the question is did some of the sketchier polling outfits, and Strategic Decisions:

1.)  simply do a better job of forecasting the composition of the electorate, or
2.) did polls overestimate Clinton LV % numbers,
3.) Or did undecided & 3rd party voters break heavily Trump in the last few days of the election which would not have been captured in polling numbers?
4.) Or do we just fall back on the cliche that Michigan polling is just historically flawed and we should completely ignore all polls coming out of Michigan?
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2016, 06:07:19 pm »
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The accuracy is scary!
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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2016, 12:38:11 pm »
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Wow, amazing poll! I wish all polls were this accurate.
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