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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2016, 05:29:11 pm »

Clinton is definitely doing better than this, for 3 reasons:

1) The poll was taken partly during the Comey "shock" period, which has since then dissipated.

2) Better numbers for early voting.

3) Better ground game for Election Day.


If Fox News is a reliable poll, then I predict a 5% lead in the popular vote for Clinton, after all votes are counted.
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2016, 05:31:41 pm »

Taken during the height of Comeygate, so that is a bad poll for trump

Dude, I know you Red Hacks are trying your hardest, but this is pathetic.
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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2016, 05:32:44 pm »

Taken during the height of Comeygate, so that is a bad poll for trump

Dude, I know you Red Hacks are trying your hardest, but this is pathetic.

I will post this till the cows come home.

We will find out in 4 days.
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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2016, 05:33:52 pm »

Taken during the height of Comeygate, so that is a bad poll for trump

Dude, I know you Red Hacks are trying your hardest, but this is pathetic.

Absolutely. There is a panic in Brooklyn and it shows here as well. Peak Comeygate was weekend, this poll started tuesday.

I've said it before if the race is tighter than 3pts and it seems it is, nobody knows how EC map will look like. Polling error could go either way but if it goes Trump way, than they should embrace for Trump train on tuesday.
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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2016, 05:35:30 pm »
« Edited: November 04, 2016, 05:38:23 pm by Happy Sad Trumpista »

you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

Its true though.
What is true?

Time taken?

1st-3rd november.

Yep, she's fine Smiley
Yeah. I thought it would be 4-7 Nov. Oh, wait
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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2016, 05:40:34 pm »

you guys and your peak comeygate thing is really getting silly, stop shilling

Its true though.
What is true?

Time taken?

1st-3rd november.

Yep, she's fine Smiley
Yeah. I thought it would be 4-7 Nov

The 3-5/6 will give us a final look at the electorate, but note that her ground game is off the charts with the EV and she baked in a week of at least +5, another week of at least +3, and there's election day.

Note that Obama won by 4 in 2012 with some national polls showing Romney ahead. No national polls show Romney ahead outside of trackers with heavy R house effect. She's going to win +3-5.
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2016, 05:42:51 pm »

Note of caution - this isn't Fox's last national poll. Hmmm....
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2016, 05:43:10 pm »

The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.
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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2016, 05:44:16 pm »

The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.
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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2016, 05:45:32 pm »

The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.
Eh, no. EV looks friendly to him.
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2016, 05:47:16 pm »

Dems
Clinton 90%
Trump 4%
Johnson 2%
Stein 1%

GOP
Trump 85%
Clinton 5%
Johnson 4%
Stein 1%

Indies
Trump 41%
Clinton 33%
Johnson 11%
Stein 3%

men: Trump +11
women: Clinton +13
whites: Trump +19
non-whites: Clinton +53
white college degree: Trump +3
white no college degree: Trump +33
urban: Clinton +24
suburban: Clinton +4
rural: Trump +19
under age 35: Clinton +16
age 35-54: Trump +17
age 55+: Clinton +7
under $50k income: Clinton +22
over $50k income: Trump +8


Once again, non-whites are too low here for Clinton. She wins Latino's by 60 and Blacks probably by 80 - no way does the margin hover in the low 50's.
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2016, 05:48:05 pm »

The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.
Eh, no. EV looks friendly to him.

What world are you living in? In what important state does the EV look good for him?
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2016, 05:54:55 pm »

Ohio, Iowa, maybe North Carolina and Florida.
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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2016, 05:58:38 pm »

Ohio, Iowa, maybe North Carolina and Florida.

Ok, borderline, no and definitely not
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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2016, 06:20:23 pm »

2012 redux.
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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2016, 06:25:08 pm »

The difference is that Obama could win EV losing PV. It is other way around this year. If it TIE or even C+1 (or even C+2 if Trump is extremely lucky), he has a good shot.

No, he doesn't. He's failed horrendously at the early vote. We're talking almost 40 million here so far.
Eh, no. EV looks friendly to him.

What world are you living in? In what important state does the EV look good for him?
EV = elections votes. Obama could win EV losing PV (popular votes), Clinton won't.
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2016, 06:44:13 pm »

Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.
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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2016, 06:52:53 pm »

Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

^^
Honestly the lies being posted here for self-reassurance are giving me second thoughts on all the other comments that I have taken at face value for the past week or two. She should still win easily, but if I was a Clinton fan, I'd finally just have a tiny ounce of fear. Very tiny. His chances have gone up from about 2% to 8-10%
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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2016, 06:58:06 pm »

Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2016, 07:02:51 pm »

Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

Yep. Clinton is still likely to win (PV only Tongue), but it becomes so f**king PATHETIC to babble about peak Dickpick.
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« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2016, 07:21:16 pm »
« Edited: November 04, 2016, 07:22:59 pm by m4567 »

Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

^^
Honestly the lies being posted here for self-reassurance are giving me second thoughts on all the other comments that I have taken at face value for the past week or two. She should still win easily, but if I was a Clinton fan, I'd finally just have a tiny ounce of fear. Very tiny. His chances have gone up from about 2% to 8-10%

I look at state polls and Obama's very slim average national lead going into election day 4 years ago.
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« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2016, 07:50:26 pm »

Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

Yep. Clinton is still likely to win (PV only Tongue), but it becomes so f**king PATHETIC to babble about peak Dickpick.

How do you see Trump winning the EV?
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« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2016, 08:10:23 pm »

Uh, guys, peak Comeygate would be the last days of October. First days of November is when the rebound is supposed to have started.

Yep. Clinton is still likely to win (PV only Tongue), but it becomes so f**king PATHETIC to babble about peak Dickpick.

How do you see Trump winning the EV?
I stick to 538 and don't pay that much attention to early voting, which is not that predictive. If it was, why would Clinton camp or CNN/FOX/[write in] spent so much money on polls, amIrite?
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« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2016, 08:21:04 pm »

I think our friend dfwlibertylover is looking for more panic and despair from us red avatars. We shouldn't disappoint him, now should we...
OH NO! Hillary is IMPLODING! This poll proves that Trump will be ahead and win on election day! The sky is falling! Fascism will reign supreme! My brain is going to exlpode! AAAAAH!
Better? Tongue

No No I just want people to admit there is not going to be a Clinton landslide

Probably not, but I don't think we can completely rule out a larger than 2012 win for her.

At this point, as long as Clinton wins and Hitler Jr is given the boot, and the Dems have a majority in the Senate, I will be happy.
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