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« on: November 07, 2016, 06:15:02 am »

Clinton 44, Trump 41, Johnson 4, Stein 2
Clinton 46, Trump 43

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-11-07/national-poll
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2016, 06:16:30 am »

These undecideds... Jesus. Are they not pushing people at all?
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2016, 06:18:31 am »

Clinton +25 with Latino's....c'mon folks
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 06:19:44 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 06:22:41 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?

Looks their rep is in danger... 36 hours to go until we see.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 06:33:10 am »

Full stats:

Clinton favorables: 46/51
Trump favorables: 41/57
POTUS favorables: 54/45
M. Obama favorables: 58/37
Bill Clinton: 50/46
Tim Kaine: 45/37
Mike Pence: 49/39
Paul Ryan: 40/43
VP Biden: 56/38
John Kasich: 37/36

Party ID: 42D/37R/18I
34/58 give new President a chance/keep on fighting
Future of GOP if Trump loses: 30/25/37 for stay the course/moderate/start from scratch
52% think Clinton's presidency will have major scandals
48% think Trump's presidency will have major scandals
53/41 Obama over Trump in a hypothetical election
50/40 Romney over Clinton in a hypothetical election
60% will not watch TrumpTV under any circumstances
7% will definitely watch TrumpTV, 11% will probably watch
2% of Clinton's supporters changed their vote because of Comeygate
Whites: Trump +12
Nonwhites: Clinton +27
Demographics: 70W/11B/10H/3A/4 Other
Gender: 51/49 female/male

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 06:37:36 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?

They are for Iowa. I don't think they have a long track record of national polling.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 06:40:36 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?

They are for Iowa. I don't think they have a long track record of national polling.

I meant her methodology in general...these non white totals are absurd.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2016, 06:43:15 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?

They are for Iowa. I don't think they have a long track record of national polling.

I meant her methodology in general...these non white totals are absurd.

If they are specialized in polling one of the whitest states in Americe then they don't have much incentive to tweak their methodology to better sample minorities.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 07:00:48 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?

They are for Iowa. I don't think they have a long track record of national polling.

I meant her methodology in general...these non white totals are absurd.

She uses voter file in Iowa/Florida. That's why they are good
IDK, if they use it nationally. And if there is national voter file.



But f**k it. I hoped that Trump will close the gap in final national polls. C+3 is too bad for him Sad
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 07:03:52 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?

They are for Iowa. I don't think they have a long track record of national polling.

I meant her methodology in general...these non white totals are absurd.

She uses voter file in Iowa/Florida. That's why they are good
IDK, if they use it nationally. And if there is national voter file.



But f**k it. I hoped that Trump will close the gap in final national polls. C+3 is too bad for him Sad

But good for mankind.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2016, 07:05:45 am »

as we all know, selzer is SUPERTIGHT....so they always play for lown turnout.

good to know that according to them, even if only the likeliest people voted, it would be a tie at worst.
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2016, 07:33:29 am »

Clinton +25 with Latino's....c'mon folks
The Latino numbers are all over the place and there is a good chance the Clinton's advantage with them and their share of the electorate in each state will be a key factor.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2016, 07:57:49 am »

Generic Congressional vote is GOP +3 in this poll. It seems that GOP is running a good deal ahead of Trump.  If this poll is believed then a good part of Johnson's vote and undecided votes are GOP voters.  This is Trump's last hope.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2016, 08:21:30 am »

Clinton +37 overall with non-whites...and selzer is supposed to be the gold standard?

They are for Iowa. I don't think they have a long track record of national polling.

I meant her methodology in general...these non white totals are absurd.

She uses voter file in Iowa/Florida. That's why they are good
IDK, if they use it nationally. And if there is national voter file.



But f**k it. I hoped that Trump will close the gap in final national polls. C+3 is too bad for him Sad

But good for mankind.

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