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« on: November 09, 2016, 04:53:43 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2016, 04:54:22 AM »

Bad losers
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2016, 05:02:12 AM »

In the absence of any tangible evidence, I must vote no.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2016, 05:38:25 AM »

My mind has certainly gone there, but I'm not inclined to deny facts I don't like.

There were some moments where it looked like we could be heading to a 269-269 tie with multiple very close states. It was looking like a perfect storm of chaos, and at that point I definitely contemplated the possibility.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2016, 05:40:37 AM »

no. Elections are way too decentralized
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2016, 05:41:08 AM »

They certainly would if they could, but I think that it is (hopefully) beyond their capabilities.



Although this AP report looks a bit suspicious Tongue :

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2016, 05:44:54 AM »

No thats silly (I really hope), but they've tried to influence it in other ways, and they'll be happy with the outcome.

Most worried about the impact on NATO, and his talk of potentially abandoning NATO members.

Its always been the case that an attack on one member that will illicit a response of war from all other members, has prevented Russian Adventurism. Russia is a mafia state, with a leader hellbent on reversing the collapse of the soviet union "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century" (his words), he's broken off parts of Moldova, he's invaded and broken off part of Georgia, he's invaded and stolen Crimea and has invaded Donbas in Ukraine East killing over 10,000 and shooting down a civilian airliner in the process, he's daily playing brinkmanship games with the baltic states Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania pushing them to see what he can get away with.

His bombers are buzzing the UK, he's done simulated nuclear bombing runs on Sweden, he's funding all the far right and far left movements in the EU, who are against the EU. He's trying to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy it. But for all his intimidation and brinkmanship, the NATO pact has prevented any real attack on a NATO member as yet, but now we have trump, who has many pro Russian political advisors, talking about abandoning the NATO pact. That is the green light for Putin, the serial opportunist who will always go up to and after the maximum he thinks he can get away with.

There will be some seriously worried people this morning in Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2016, 05:47:25 AM »

Regardless, its the first time a major foreign power has possibly flipped a U.S. election as the result of what was a deliberate, long-term attack on our election infrastructure. An autocratic state exploited the fact that there are deep divisions in a democratic state, as a result of our competitive party system, to launch attacks on parts of the democratic state's populace without facing a unified backlash. This points to a structural advantage in autocracy not seen in recent history.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2016, 05:53:22 AM »

Possibly flipped?

Atlas can't afford to be stupid anymore @ President Trump
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2016, 05:57:54 AM »

No, Trump hacked the electoral college :/
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2016, 07:20:23 AM »

"The Kremlin issued a statement saying they hope to work more closely with the US to address major challenges."

“Putin expressed hope for joint work to restore Russian-American relations from their state of crisis, and also to address pressing international issues and search for effective responses to challenges concerning global security,” it said.

"Mr Putin said he thought a more constructive dialogue between the former rivals would serve both countries better."


http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/russian-president-vladimir-putin-and-world-leaders-react-to-donald-trump-us-election-win/news-story/2b3a75d6808c8c3beb0afff41b05519a

No hack there.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2016, 11:34:15 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2016, 11:43:19 PM »

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Haha, no, of course not. That's just a Hillary-hack conspiracy theory. Hillary lost because she's a terrible candidate (both as a person and her policies).
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