Is Obamacare dead now?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Should I just kiss my health insurance goodbye?

[Erich Maria Remarque]

I think actually that Trump is will be a pretty Europeish candidate president. So I believe that it will be some sort of universal health care

[Historia Crux]

Pretty much, I don't really see any option for the Republicans to walk back on this promise. God I have to prepare myself to loose my insurance and deal with paying more for my depression meds, if I can afford them. Suicide here I come.

[Nichlemn]

In name perhaps, but I doubt they can repeal many of its most popular provisions (e.g. preexisting condition ban).

[Person Man]

The bigger question is that whether this is it or not. This could be Dumpster's Iraq/ISIS on DP.

[Sbane]

Probably in name, but they would be stupid to actually get rid of all of it's protections. Republicans are going to have a tough time trying to figure this out. Because if they don't, I can easily see how this sweeps the Democrats back into power. Probably a socialist in the mold of Bernie, or perhaps Bernie himself.

[Storebought]

It will be easily repealed in Congress, and Trump will not have any reason to veto.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Not really. Obamacare needs to be restructured, not repealed and replaced. I'm sure Trump, the ultimate negotiator, will leave Obama's legacy in place. He might even save it.

[Beet]

No major national law is secure with the staunch opposition of one major party out of power because something like this will happen eventually. Only things that are accepted by both parties become legacy.

[Sbane]

No major national law is secure with the staunch opposition of one major party out of power because something like this will happen eventually. Only things that are accepted by both parties become legacy.

I guess the question is do you care about the label or what's actually inside the package? Republicans may do something for show, but I doubt they change it too much. It is after all a Republican plan.......

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

In name, yes. But the devil is in the details. The Federal exchanges will be toast, but some of the State exchanges will continue. We will see a pullback of the Medicaid expansion, especially since it proved costlier than expected, so the savings from that can be part of the justification of the tax cut  our government neither needs nor can afford.

However, I can't see the outright elimination of pre-existing conditions, tho a backdoor pullback by allowing some additional factors like weight and age to be part of the pricing model the insurers use. Some form of premium subsidy will continue, tho that's likely to change so that it's something you get back when you file taxes instead of being something you get during the year.

The cloudiest thing is the fate of the individual mandate. If it's not there, we'll see a death spiral of increasing premiums as only the sick choose to remain insured.

[Person Man]

In name, yes. But the devil is in the details. The Federal exchanges will be toast, but some of the State exchanges will continue. We will see a pullback of the Medicaid expansion, especially since it proved costlier than expected, so the savings from that can be part of the justification of the tax cut  our government neither needs nor can afford.

However, I can't see the outright elimination of pre-existing conditions, tho a backdoor pullback by allowing some additional factors like weight and age to be part of the pricing model the insurers use. Some form of premium subsidy will continue, tho that's likely to change so that it's something you get back when you file taxes instead of being something you get during the year.

The cloudiest thing is the fate of the individual mandate. If it's not there, we'll see a death spiral of increasing premiums as only the sick choose to remain insured.

Maybe there will be a market for insurance loans where you take out the loan to pay your premium and pay back the loan with your tax refund?

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Kiss the individual mandate good bye at least.

[7,052,770]

Kiss the individual mandate good bye at least.

Doubt it. Trump knows that will kill the insurance market. It's why I'm at least glad we have Trump instead of a super ideologue.

[pbrower2a]

Every liberal reform since the Pure Food and Drug Law of 1906 is at risk. It's back to the Gilded Age, folks, even in the return to the brutal economics of early industrialism.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Ryan's plan on this was basically repeal Obamacare and replace it with something that was basically just a restructured version of Obamacare. I suspect we'll see something along those lines. Although I don't doubt it'll lose some good features.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Good summary: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/09/much-obamacare-wont-likely-survive-but-key-parts/93542284/

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

In name perhaps, but I doubt they can repeal many of its most popular provisions (e.g. preexisting condition ban).

The pre existing condition ban only works if you require that everyone has insurance. If they remove the mandate and keep the ban, they'll create an unsustainable system.

[jamestroll]

In name perhaps, but I doubt they can repeal many of its most popular provisions (e.g. preexisting condition ban).

The pre existing condition ban only works if you require that everyone has insurance. If they remove the mandate and keep the ban, they'll create an unsustainable system.

Exactly.. If we do not require everyone to have insurance, there is no way insurance companies could survive having to take persons with pre-existing conditions. The costs would be too high. The mandate that everyone must have insurance helps balance the risk.

But, it is popular to say, "Let's not deny persons with pre-existing conditions from having health insurance".

I personally think ObamaCare is unworkable without a pubic option and an individual mandate. Unfortunately, you get into the issue whether an individual mandate is constitutional or not, but the Supreme Court has allowed it as a "tax".

[Lief 🗽]

Of course it is. What is going to stop them from repealing it?

[fhtagn]

Not completely. I can see it being restructured and called something else.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

McConnell says repeal will happen quickly.

This is bad, but since the Republicans have no plan to transition the system, we can hopefully expect two years of gridlock on that.  That, or they'll just go nuclear and kick off 20 million people from their insurance plans and face the consequences in 2018.  Or premiums will skyrocket like Ernest said if the mandate is repealed.

The "purchasing healthcare across state lines" thing will never happen because anybody who understands the implications of that knows it's totally unfeasible; literally a campaign gimmick.

So I'm fcking panicked about this right now, but hey, the idiots wanted it.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Pretty much, I don't really see any option for the Republicans to walk back on this promise. God I have to prepare myself to loose my insurance and deal with paying more for my depression meds, if I can afford them. Suicide here I come.

Don't go

[Bojack Horseman]

Yep.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

It depends upon whether Trump Supercare™ will be considered a replacement or a revision of Obamacare.