Clinton received fewer EVs than Kerry

[Senator-elect Spark]

Just as I predicted. Although she won the popular vote, she performed worse than both Kerry & Gore. She is projected to garner about 232 electoral votes, while Kerry had 251.

[RI]

Fewer

[Desroko]

This one is going to hurt for a while.  Might as well get the Dem megadonors to start pouring $1B into Texas and Georgia over the next 4 years, because it might be the only way the 2020 Dem can win the EC.  It's also a net +10ish House seats in 2022 if they can get Dem governors elected in 2018 in those states and sustain their vetoes.

Don't forget Arizona.

[EpicHistory]

BUT MAH 272 FREIWALL WAS SUPPOSED TO BRING ABOUT A CLINTON VICTORY!!!##!!

On topic, but this election was definitely a realignment. Ohio just voted to the right of Arizona, and Missouri went more Republican than Mississippi. That's not even mentioning the fact pretty much swept up the entire Midwest sans Illinois and he just barely missed out on Minnesota's votes. For the record, we better not here any mention of the now mythical "Freiwall" come 2020.

[Desroko]

This one is going to hurt for a while.  Might as well get the Dem megadonors to start pouring $1B into Texas and Georgia over the next 4 years, because it might be the only way the 2020 Dem can win the EC.  It's also a net +10ish House seats in 2022 if they can get Dem governors elected in 2018 in those states and sustain their vetoes.

Don't forget Arizona.

There was a substantial amount of investment in AZ and unreal investment in NC, and they are only 1% better than Georgia.  Georgia is the major missed opportunity here IMO.  Also, the Gov is irrelevant to redistricting in AZ.

Arizona probably swung as hard or harder than GA, and the Gov is not irrelevant to voting rights. Walk and chew gum.

[Inmate Trump]

So one election and Dems have no chance in the Midwest anymore? Please.

[Senator-elect Spark]

I told everyone all along that Trump was going to win and that the polls were wrong. I can't wait to see Kamala Harris become President one day lol.

[Blue3]

Just as I predicted. Although she won the popular vote, she performed worse than both Kerry & Gore. She is projected to garner about 232 electoral votes, while Kerry had 251.

She also won the popular vote, which Kerry lost.

[EpicHistory]

She also won the popular vote, which Kerry lost.

But unlike Kerry, she had the advantage of "being a woman and running against a racist buffoon."

She still failed. #AWinIsAWin

[nclib]

Unfortunate how the EC would have helped Dems in 2004, 2008, and 2012, when it didn't matter, but hurts us in 2000 and 2016 when it did matter.

OTOH, the Kerry/Trump states (WI, MI, PA) are generally losing EVs while the Bush/Clinton states (NV, CO, NM, and VA) are generally gaining EVs.

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Kerry won 252. Hillary could lose an elector as well.

[TheElectoralBoobyPrize]

The question this really begs is....why did Bush get so few electoral votes in 2004 relative to his three million vote win in the popular vote?  Just looking at the states that were closest doesn't help a whole lot...

[Ban my account ffs!]

[mencken]

The question this really begs is....why did Bush get so few electoral votes in 2004 relative to his three million vote win in the popular vote?  Just looking at the states that were closest doesn't help a whole lot...

Bush was too busy increasing his Hispanic margin to negative 11 to reap the lasting electoral rewards in New Mexico.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Im feeling some sick sense of satisfaction, since I've been calling the "272 freiwal" a bulls**t from day one.

[Nyvin]

It's looking like Hillary will have a larger total victory margin than Gore did against Bush.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Im feeling some sick sense of satisfaction, since I've been calling the "272 freiwal" a bulls**t from day one.

Iowa has been replaced by VA 13.  But it isn't dead, Dems will be electing new GOVs in WI, MI and IL in 2018 and all except OH and IN which are GOP terrority, it will once again become one in 2020.

[AmericanNation]

The question this really begs is....why did Bush get so few electoral votes in 2004 relative to his three million vote win in the popular vote?  Just looking at the states that were closest doesn't help a whole lot...

Bush did very well in Republican states in 2004 and among many different voting groups, while Kerry did worse in many Democratic states compared to Obama and Clinton. Trump performed worse in several Bush states and barely won many of the states that catapulted him to a wide electoral college victory, resulting in a wide PV/EV disparity. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are still Democratic states, it's just that Democrats didn't vote like they did in previous elections, allowing Trump to win despite only modestly overperforming Romney.

They are GOP states every off year election and are probably tossups (maybe lean dem) in presidential years. 

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

The question this really begs is....why did Bush get so few electoral votes in 2004 relative to his three million vote win in the popular vote?  Just looking at the states that were closest doesn't help a whole lot...

Bush did very well in Republican states in 2004 and among many different voting groups, while Kerry did worse in many Democratic states compared to Obama and Clinton. Trump performed worse in several Bush states and barely won many of the states that catapulted him to a wide electoral college victory, resulting in a wide PV/EV disparity. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are still Democratic states, it's just that Democrats didn't vote like they did in previous elections, allowing Trump to win despite only modestly overperforming Romney.

They are GOP states every off year election and are probably tossups (maybe lean dem) in presidential years. 

They are tossups on balance- lean GOP in midterms, lean Dem in pres years. But when Trump fails to bring manufacturing jobs back (ignoring that many of those jobs simply don't exist anymore, and that instead we need to provide greater opportunities for those who relied on them, as Clinton planned), I can see the GOP brand going downhill...

[PresidentTRUMP]

Electoral College wise....it was an absolute LANDSLIDE for Trump. in 2020 I wouldn't be shocked if one of NV, CO or NH turns red as well.

[‼realJohnEwards‼]

Electoral College wise....it was an absolute LANDSLIDE for Trump. in 2020 I wouldn't be shocked if one of NV, CO or NH turns red as well.

LOL. Tell me how Trump is going to make good on his promises... is he just going to wiggle his nosebleed and make job s appear out of nowhere? Nah, America will see how empty his promises really are.