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« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2016, 09:41:22 AM »

My heart hurts for her, she's such a great person and deserved better....LOL
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« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2016, 09:45:22 AM »

A lot of assholes on this board now that Trump won. I expect that to permeate throughout the USA, with all the jerks of the world feeling entitled now to treat others like crap because Trump showed you can do that and still achieve glory.

I'm done with this board. I'm done with this country.
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« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2016, 09:50:48 AM »

Kind of, but also screw her.
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« Reply #53 on: November 10, 2016, 10:08:27 AM »

Oh yes. Trump is absolutely right about her when he's commending her. She's a very smart, well-intentioned, funny, personable, God-fearing, hardworking person who's spent her life in public service, and got a lot of good done. She does deserve better. So do Bill and Chelsea.
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« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2016, 10:10:55 AM »

I do. Apparently running a campaign based on issues, experience, qualifications and not hate means nothing.
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« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2016, 02:09:35 PM »

So tired of people saying she ran a bad campaign and holding it against her as a cardinal sin. Obviously it can't have been that great because, you know, it lost. But few of you were complaining at the time when the majority of evidence showed her winning by 5+ nationally through the whole damn thing. She would have readjusted if it had been clearer what they dynamics of the race really were, and hindsight is 20/20. Trump made a call to ignore the data and trust his gut. Turns out he was right, but we also can't really call it smart. He just had the winning strategy.

I am in reality extremely proud of the kind of campaign she ran. I'd never felt this way going into an election. A candidate was running on inclusion, competence, and grab basket of clear and positive plans for the country... against an animalistic dope. I guess we've learned that the winning strategy is to walk back all of this, which is perhaps the biggest loss of all.
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« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2016, 03:57:05 PM »

^ Thinking it's an either/or is so ridiculous. Barack Obama was capable of doing both, which is what made him so exceptional.
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« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2016, 04:16:38 PM »

No, i feel really happy with the result and although she lost, Hillary should be happy with her hard work during this campaign, andvto a greater extent, public service.

Having the first female President would have been a big deal for the USA.

Hillary will be fine. As Donald Trump himself said, she is a worthy politician who never gives up.
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« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2016, 04:22:43 PM »

As a conservative Republican, not one bit. I actually don't hate her like many of my fellow conservatives do, but she is corrupt and dishonest and her policies would have been terrible for this country.

The person who deserves the most blame for Trump's victory is not Hillary but Barack Obama. He moved this country too far to the left; rather than learning from the midterm elections by moving to the center, he tripled down on his radical project to transform America into a weak crippled socialist Europe. He used executive orders to implement policies such as amnesty that most of us don't want. This election is a rejection of Obama's progressive vision and policies.
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« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2016, 04:25:01 PM »

No.
When the head of the Gambino Crime family went to prison I shed no tears. 
When the head of the Clinton Crime family doesn't get to go to the White House I do not feel bad.
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« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2016, 04:27:18 PM »

as a middle-european from a, more or less, right-wing-socialist-big-gov-country, let me tell you that obama's america looks NOTHING like an european nation.

voting trump to reject obama sounds - in regard of executive orders and big government projects -  like "doubling down" to me.

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« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2016, 04:30:25 PM »

As a conservative Republican, not one bit. I actually don't hate her like many of my fellow conservatives do, but she is corrupt and dishonest and her policies would have been terrible for this country.

The person who deserves the most blame for Trump's victory is not Hillary but Barack Obama. He moved this country too far to the left; rather than learning from the midterm elections by moving to the center, he tripled down on his radical project to transform America into a weak crippled socialist Europe. He used executive orders to implement policies such as amnesty that most of us don't want. This election is a rejection of Obama's progressive vision and policies.

If it were about Obama, then it's one final scream before 2020/2024 drowns the whiners out.

No different from Ford losing because of Nixon and the country being "too far right", which Carter capitalized on.

More likely just unfocused hatred of the system regardless of who is the head of it.


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« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2016, 10:30:03 PM »

Very much so.

Dedicated her life to public service. Relentlessly smeared and tormented in an incredibly nasty and personal way. You can see a lot of it in this thread. Yet both times she ran for President she accepted defeat and urged unity.
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« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2016, 11:01:10 PM »

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« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2016, 11:05:01 PM »

A lot of assholes on this board now that Trump won. I expect that to permeate throughout the USA, with all the jerks of the world feeling entitled now to treat others like crap because Trump showed you can do that and still achieve glory.

I'm done with this board. I'm done with this country.
Not like it was like the reverse before the election... Just saying
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« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2016, 11:09:32 PM »

Clinton really had no message at all. Which makes it quite obvious that she did not run to improve the country for the better (unlike Obama or Sanders for example) but because the office of the presidency was just something she had always sought to obtain.
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« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2016, 11:14:30 PM »

A candidate was running on inclusion, competence, and grab basket of clear and positive plans for the country...
Bernie lost in primaries! Huh

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« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2016, 11:28:31 PM »

A candidate was running on inclusion, competence, and grab basket of clear and positive plans for the country...
Bernie lost in primaries! Huh



You must be an imbecile. Even I will concede that Bernie had appeal, but Hillary emphasized inclusion, competence, and detail in policy much more than Sanders did. His strengths rested elsewhere. Even his supporters would admit as much.
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« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2016, 01:23:45 AM »

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« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2016, 01:58:16 AM »

Yes. My opposition to Hillary is rooted in her ties with Obama and the far-left/identity politics takeover of the Democrat Party, not with her herself. I actually admire her ethical flexibility and unbridled ambition.
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« Reply #70 on: November 11, 2016, 02:36:18 AM »
« Edited: November 11, 2016, 04:48:29 PM by Lincoln Republican »

Yes, in the sense that she is a mother and grandmother and the defeat was hard on her and her family and she has worked for 35 years to become President, and, in all fairness, she has accomplished some very worthwhile things  in her life.

But overall no, because she, and Bill, have run roughshod over people to get what they want with no regard for who they hurt in the process.  While Secretary of State she had her private email account handling items of national security, endangering the lives of others.  She accepted obscene amounts of money from Wall Street for speeches.  Wall Street does not give someone $250,000 per speech without getting something in return.  Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea Clinton were the beneficiaries of pay for play schemes with the Clinton Foundation.  She has not levelled with the public in this campaign.  I believe she had a sense of entitlement.  
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« Reply #71 on: November 11, 2016, 02:53:50 AM »

A candidate was running on inclusion, competence, and grab basket of clear and positive plans for the country...
Bernie lost in primaries! Huh



You must be an imbecile. Even I will concede that Bernie had appeal, but Hillary emphasized inclusion, competence, and detail in policy much more than Sanders did. His strengths rested elsewhere. Even his supporters would admit as much.

That is ludicrous?

Can you name 1 policy? I have gone through policies in details  - Including bernie's healthcare, moving with different tax to gdp ratios & gdp growth & how much it will raise. Macro is my area!

Hillary was horrible in policies - What was her policy ? She had 0 policy!

Bernie proposed a concrete Single payer with break up - Hillary did nothing - I will fix ACA

Bernie proposed lifting the cap on taxable income on Social Security - Hillary we will look at all ideas

Bernie  - tax offshore income to bring infra jobs

Bernie - Wall Street Speculation - This is the most Detailed plan I have seen with a 0.0001% tax somewhere 0.001% tax etc on Bonds, Stocks, etc.

I have gone through Bernie's plan in details - Hillary did not even had a plan or policy.

The only reason it seemed like was Bernie is a naive rusty debater from VT who couldn't explain it well. And Hillary actually went after Bernie's plans saying ohh you need 10M there & that is hard to pass & so on.

It is easy to do so because there was no debate about Hillary's plan cause she had none!
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« Reply #72 on: November 11, 2016, 04:00:24 AM »

A candidate was running on inclusion, competence, and grab basket of clear and positive plans for the country...
Bernie lost in primaries! Huh



You must be an imbecile. Even I will concede that Bernie had appeal, but Hillary emphasized inclusion, competence, and detail in policy much more than Sanders did. His strengths rested elsewhere. Even his supporters would admit as much.

That is ludicrous?

Can you name 1 policy? I have gone through policies in details  - Including bernie's healthcare, moving with different tax to gdp ratios & gdp growth & how much it will raise. Macro is my area!

Hillary was horrible in policies - What was her policy ? She had 0 policy!

Bernie proposed a concrete Single payer with break up - Hillary did nothing - I will fix ACA

Bernie proposed lifting the cap on taxable income on Social Security - Hillary we will look at all ideas

Bernie  - tax offshore income to bring infra jobs

Bernie - Wall Street Speculation - This is the most Detailed plan I have seen with a 0.0001% tax somewhere 0.001% tax etc on Bonds, Stocks, etc.

I have gone through Bernie's plan in details - Hillary did not even had a plan or policy.

The only reason it seemed like was Bernie is a naive rusty debater from VT who couldn't explain it well. And Hillary actually went after Bernie's plans saying ohh you need 10M there & that is hard to pass & so on.

It is easy to do so because there was no debate about Hillary's plan cause she had none!

Introducing the Buffet rule, not raising income taxes on Americans earning less than 250k, using anti-trust laws to stop healthcare mergers, getting rid of the Hyde Amendment, raising the minimum wage to $12, allowing people to buy into medicare at 55, creating an independent infrastructure investment fund but yeah HRC had no policies.

 
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« Reply #73 on: November 11, 2016, 04:05:20 AM »

Of course, she was not dealt a fair hand. One can easily imagine her winning had she kept her emails on a State Department server, and if such a minor thing was really the tipping point in a modern-day election in a developed country that is a really sad state of affairs.

Plus she is also now a citizen of a country with Donald Trump as President and I feel bad for all of those people.
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« Reply #74 on: November 11, 2016, 04:41:39 AM »

Yeah let's all feel bad for the person who couldn't beat a reality tv show clown in a general election.
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