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« on: November 13, 2016, 01:11:43 PM »



Democrats:216
Republicans: 205
Toss-Ups: 117
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2016, 01:12:42 PM »

seems good atm.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2016, 01:38:08 PM »

This leans a bit GOP I think.

WA is definitely still Safe D.
NV and possibly CO are still tossups.
GA is more Leans R than Likely R (it was closer than Iowa and Ohio).
TX was also closer than IA, but I think it should be Likely R not Leans R. Clinton over-performed here.
Still think ME is Leans D. Clinton underperformed here.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2016, 01:38:56 PM »

NC is lean R...2008 was a fluke.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2016, 02:23:54 PM »

CO and NV are still tossups.

I agree that VA is Tilt D, but if Trump is successful, it could end up being a tossup again.  It all depends on how the governor race next year goes.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2016, 02:24:45 PM »



Democrats:216
Republicans: 205
Toss-Ups: 117

I'm ready to say Iowa is not a battleground.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2016, 03:58:11 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2016, 04:00:49 PM by Virginia »

Battlegrounds as in Republicans will probably thoroughly contest them, sure, but swing states now? No. Based on Bush's close calls and now this, it might not be unreasonable to label Wisconsin that, but Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Maine? Uh, no. I mean seriously? I don't understand why so many people think a win in a few normally non-competitive states in one election always means that state is now competitive or even leans towards the party that won it, especially in this freak election. Both candidates were bad fits and for numerous reasons, at least in the eyes of many voters, Clinton was the worst fit.

For all we know they are indeed toss-ups, but there is no way to know that and the most reasonable assumption is to assume that they will maintain their generation-long partisan behavior if Democrats shape up in 2020. I think most other assumptions would just be people pulling crap outta their butt.

I think Nevada might still be winnable for a Republican in 2020 if they put forward the right candidate, but not for a Trump reelection. Arizona is still at least Leans R, if not Likely, for now. I have a feeling Iowa is moving away from Democrats as well, but not entirely sure how fast.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2016, 04:10:51 PM »

Why would WA be only Likely D, when it was more Democratic than several states you have as Safe D? I'd move ME to Lean D, GA to Lean R, and TX to Likely R.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2016, 04:16:59 PM »

Seems pretty reasonable, IMO, though I suspect that Minnesota 2016 = Oregon 2000. I could easily be wrong, though.
I agree with this assessment. GA is going to be more competitive, though, and TX should really be Likely and not Safe (WA vice versa)
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2016, 04:34:15 PM »


Dems: 232
GOP: 203
Tossup: 103

50% = Tossup, Tossup/Tilt D, Tossup/Tilt R.
60% = Tilt D, Tilt R
70% = Lean D, Lean R
80% = Likely D, Likely R
90% = Safe D, Safe R

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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2016, 04:46:36 PM »



Yes, this is a plausible 279-259 map for a Democratic majority in 2020
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2016, 04:47:15 PM »



Yes, this is a plausible 279-259 map for a Democratic majority in 2020
dude, as much as I'd like this to be true, your Freiwahl is kinda dead. sorry.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2016, 04:48:47 PM »

PA, WI, MI, and IL will be electing Democratic Govs in 2018
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2016, 04:52:03 PM »

PA, WI, MI, and IL will be electing Democratic Govs in 2018
Hey, I hope so too, and we need to start NOW if we want to make it happen, but we can't speak in such absolute terms right now
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2016, 05:06:09 PM »

The North Carolina swing-state meme needs to die.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2016, 05:13:48 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2016, 05:18:54 PM by Spicy Purrito( (((☭ )))-MA) »



I don't know about PA. That is kinda a stretch and MI is gone too, then.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2016, 05:19:27 PM »


Seriously PA only swung due to the Toomey coattails, it won't be that easy again in 2020.  And PA has failed to elect statewide female officeholders
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2016, 05:39:36 PM »

I honestly have North Carolina and Georgia leaning R and Nevada and leaning D in 2020, as for Minnesota it depends on Trump but until further notice Minnesota pulled a Oregon 2000


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Democrats - 228
GOP - 218
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2016, 05:42:14 PM »

In a 50-50 election with Trump as the nominee, the battleground map could be this.



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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2016, 05:44:13 PM »



Democrats:216
Republicans: 205
Toss-Ups: 117

Move NC and AZ from Tossup to Lean R and WA to Safe D.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2016, 05:49:51 PM »

The North Carolina swing-state meme needs to die.

Re-elected Governor McCrory agrees.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2016, 06:37:39 PM »



Democrats:216
Republicans: 205
Toss-Ups: 117

Move NC and AZ from Tossup to Lean R and WA to Safe D.
Darken WA
Maybe lighten GA
Maybe darken IA, OH
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