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« Reply #300 on: May 09, 2017, 10:51:36 AM »

Green vote collapsing as expected. However, it seems to be helping the Liberals. Perhaps the NDP can only win when the centre and centre-right are divided? Green voters are as a whole not in the centre, but perhaps their softest supporters are in the centre.


The only poll that shows the Green vote "collapsing" is Forum and I'm sceptical they were ever as high as 245 in the first place. I suspcet that there is relatively little Green-Liberal movement. I think that there is movement of the vestigial BC Conservative vote to the Liberals and some Liberal gains from undecideds, counterbalanced by the NDP picking up last minute tactical votes from Greens who don't want to split the vote and re-elect the Liberals
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« Reply #301 on: May 09, 2017, 11:02:10 AM »

Green vote collapsing as expected. However, it seems to be helping the Liberals. Perhaps the NDP can only win when the centre and centre-right are divided? Green voters are as a whole not in the centre, but perhaps their softest supporters are in the centre.


The only poll that shows the Green vote "collapsing" is Forum and I'm sceptical they were ever as high as 245 in the first place. I suspcet that there is relatively little Green-Liberal movement. I think that there is movement of the vestigial BC Conservative vote to the Liberals and some Liberal gains from undecideds, counterbalanced by the NDP picking up last minute tactical votes from Greens who don't want to split the vote and re-elect the Liberals

I am almost certain the Greens will not actually get what they're polling at. Close elections have a tendency to depress third party turnout.
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« Reply #302 on: May 09, 2017, 12:19:00 PM »


I am almost certain the Greens will not actually get what they're polling at. Close elections have a tendency to depress third party turnout.

I agree. If the average of the final polls has them at 18% - i expect they will be at 14-15%...in the last three BC elections final polls had the Greens around 12-13% and they wound up at 8%
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« Reply #303 on: May 09, 2017, 04:06:23 PM »


I am almost certain the Greens will not actually get what they're polling at. Close elections have a tendency to depress third party turnout.

I agree. If the average of the final polls has them at 18% - i expect they will be at 14-15%...in the last three BC elections final polls had the Greens around 12-13% and they wound up at 8%

BUT... where does this vote go? Would this bloated Green vote, say by 6-8% parked, translate? will this benefit the Liberals, the NDP or will it just not show up. Greens heavily preferenced the NDP, so is the NDP vote effectively under-polled by say 4%?
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« Reply #304 on: May 09, 2017, 05:13:07 PM »

Polls have consistently shown that soft Green voters when asked their second choice would go NDP over Liberal by about a 4-1 margin. Some greens will stay home since a lot of their voters are younger and disengaged. But a lot of Green voters are also very anti-Christy Clark, so I think that the lower the Green vote the better for the NDP. Whether its enough is anyone's guess
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« Reply #305 on: May 09, 2017, 06:00:37 PM »

So which website is the best place to watch results come in? I haven't been a fan of CBC's redesign.
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« Reply #306 on: May 09, 2017, 07:41:05 PM »

So which website is the best place to watch results come in? I haven't been a fan of CBC's redesign.

www.cknw.com will have a combined radio/television effort with Global News. 
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« Reply #307 on: May 09, 2017, 07:53:02 PM »

I have Global News' running in the background:

http://globalnews.ca/news/3432025/live-bc-election-2017-real-time-results/
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« Reply #308 on: May 09, 2017, 08:09:06 PM »

Thanks, much appreciated.
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« Reply #309 on: May 09, 2017, 08:24:30 PM »

Just voted Green! Meh, it's in a safe LIB riding anywho. If the NDP loses to the Liberals again they are going to be a dead party. This is a pretty winnable election for them.
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« Reply #310 on: May 09, 2017, 08:56:32 PM »

Just voted Green! Meh, it's in a safe LIB riding anywho. If the NDP loses to the Liberals again they are going to be a dead party. This is a pretty winnable election for them.

I live in Burnaby North, so... yeah my vote went NDP.

With that being said my enthusiasm for this election is not very high, for some strange reason
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« Reply #311 on: May 09, 2017, 09:44:42 PM »

From my perspective in Ontario I'd be much more enthusiastic if I was voting in BC than ON. Horgan is better than Horwath and I'd be happy if he was a choice that could win here.
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« Reply #312 on: May 09, 2017, 09:52:10 PM »

Just voted Green! Meh, it's in a safe LIB riding anywho. If the NDP loses to the Liberals again they are going to be a dead party. This is a pretty winnable election for them.

*shakes head*
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« Reply #313 on: May 09, 2017, 09:59:24 PM »

And here...we...go...
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« Reply #314 on: May 09, 2017, 10:07:08 PM »

Results from Elections BC

http://electionsbcenr.blob.core.windows.net/electionsbcenr/GE-2017-05-09_Party.html
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« Reply #315 on: May 09, 2017, 10:11:20 PM »

And the CBC to fill it all out.

http://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/bcvotes2017/
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« Reply #316 on: May 09, 2017, 10:17:15 PM »

CBC, CTV and Global no results.
ELections BC has Results from Peace River River and Cariboo-Chilcotin (both leading Liberal)
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« Reply #317 on: May 09, 2017, 10:27:46 PM »

Results coming in fairly quickly now, mostly from safe ridings for both the Liberals and NDP. Both are leading in 8 ridings each and none are particularly close.
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« Reply #318 on: May 09, 2017, 10:33:47 PM »

Greens already screwing the NDP on Vancouver Island.
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« Reply #319 on: May 09, 2017, 10:34:14 PM »

Libs now up 18-11.

48%-35%-16% in the popular vote.
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« Reply #320 on: May 09, 2017, 10:34:56 PM »

Just voted Green but if the NDP loses then they suck
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« Reply #321 on: May 09, 2017, 10:39:30 PM »

Just voted Green but if the NDP loses then they suck

Maybe because they're having trouble winning over Green voters.
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« Reply #322 on: May 09, 2017, 10:40:04 PM »

Greens up in Saanich North and the Island

EDIT: and in Kootenay West Tongue
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« Reply #323 on: May 09, 2017, 10:41:12 PM »

30-22-2 right now. Greens are harming Dippers in Greater Vancouver and Vancouver Island.
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« Reply #324 on: May 09, 2017, 10:43:26 PM »

Kelowna-Lake County the first riding called, for the Liberals.
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