MT-SEN 2018: #Populism wins, #ShrillNeoliberalism loses
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« Reply #250 on: November 05, 2018, 09:36:36 AM »

Not everyone who voted Trump in 2016 is a partisan Republican. Not everyone who approves of him is writing of Democrats entirely. Tester could very well keep his seat. That is a scary thought =(
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« Reply #251 on: November 07, 2018, 02:57:24 AM »

Tester will more likely than not win this race, but it should be obvious to anyone at this point that this was never "Likely D" or less likely to flip than Nevada, Maine, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or New Jersey, lol.
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« Reply #252 on: November 07, 2018, 02:58:50 AM »

Tester will more likely than not win this race, but it should be obvious to anyone at this point that this was never "Likely D" or less likely to flip than Nevada, Maine, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or New Jersey, lol.

Why do you think he'll win this race? It looks like he needs a miracle to pull it out.
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« Reply #253 on: November 07, 2018, 03:19:37 AM »

Tester... please...
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« Reply #254 on: November 07, 2018, 03:21:14 AM »

Tester will more likely than not win this race, but it should be obvious to anyone at this point that this was never "Likely D" or less likely to flip than Nevada, Maine, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or New Jersey, lol.

Why do you think he'll win this race? It looks like he needs a miracle to pull it out.

My back-of-the-envelope calculations of the counties/# of precincts remaining shows this as a complete jump ball.  538 has it 55-45 Rosendale. 
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« Reply #255 on: November 07, 2018, 03:22:11 AM »

Tester is doomed. This is what you get for betraying your constituents.
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« Reply #256 on: November 07, 2018, 03:22:30 AM »

Tester should win by 4-5% easily. Should be his biggest margin in a Senate race. Most of the votes from Missoula are left !

Too bad about Gianforte winning again !
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« Reply #257 on: November 07, 2018, 03:23:18 AM »

I'm not sure what people are talking about. Tester has an 85% chance of winning via NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-montana-elections.html
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« Reply #258 on: November 07, 2018, 03:33:07 AM »

Tester will more likely than not win this race, but it should be obvious to anyone at this point that this was never "Likely D" or less likely to flip than Nevada, Maine, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or New Jersey, lol.

Why do you think he'll win this race? It looks like he needs a miracle to pull it out.

Rosendale’s underperforming in the most populous counties (populous by MT standards, obviously), and the outstanding vote favors Democrats. Sure, he’ll win Beaverhead, but that’s not going to be enough if he’s only ahead by 0.7% right now. This is looking like Tester +1.5-2 to me.
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« Reply #259 on: November 07, 2018, 03:36:38 AM »

Tester will more likely than not win this race, but it should be obvious to anyone at this point that this was never "Likely D" or less likely to flip than Nevada, Maine, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or New Jersey, lol.

Why do you think he'll win this race? It looks like he needs a miracle to pull it out.

Rosendale’s underperforming in the most populous counties (populous by MT standards, obviously), and the outstanding vote favors Democrats. Sure, he’ll win Beaverhead, but that’s not going to be enough if he’s only ahead by 0.7% right now. This is looking like Tester +1.5-2 to me.

Ah, I suppose we'll have to wait until tomorrow to know for sure. Well, you were certainly right that this race was never a sure thing for Democrats (I agreed), and if Tester does win, he should consider himself lucky that a Republican is currently president.
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« Reply #260 on: November 07, 2018, 04:19:51 AM »

Rosendale is 9000 ahead with 70% of Missoula left. Tester can pick up 10-12-14K votes there but this will go down to the wire. Probably another 0.2 or 0.5% margin. This looks bad !
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« Reply #261 on: November 07, 2018, 04:59:53 AM »

Ah, I suppose we'll have to wait until tomorrow to know for sure. Well, you were certainly right that this race was never a sure thing for Democrats (I agreed), and if Tester does win, he should consider himself lucky that a Republican is currently president.

Definitely. I always got PA-SEN 2016 vibes from this race, and I still think Rosendale would have won had the NRSC gotten involved earlier and treated MT as a top tier race from the very beginning.

Anyway, I really don’t see a path for Rosendale here.
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« Reply #262 on: November 07, 2018, 05:23:51 AM »

Rosendale only up by ~1,100 according to CNN.
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« Reply #263 on: November 07, 2018, 05:33:12 AM »

Tester will more likely than not win this race, but it should be obvious to anyone at this point that this was never "Likely D" or less likely to flip than Nevada, Maine, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or New Jersey, lol.

Are you telling me "expert" Charlie Cook was wrong about Tina Smith and Angus King being more vulnerable than Tester? I don't believe his ratings have ever led us astray!
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« Reply #264 on: November 07, 2018, 05:34:54 AM »

Tester got double digits in Garfield County! Quist and Hillary couldn't do it.

#Populism Purple heart
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« Reply #265 on: November 07, 2018, 05:38:10 AM »

Rosendale only up by ~1,100 according to CNN.

Assuming CNN's results are accurate (big assumption), all of the remaining vote is in the Tester counties of Missoula, Cascade, Gallatin, and Park, so he should narrowly squeak by. I'd feel more confident about saying that if CNN's site wasn't glitches galore this whole night.
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« Reply #266 on: November 07, 2018, 05:39:15 AM »

On Decision Desk, 96.26% reporting.
Matt Rosendale   193,479   48.90%   
Jon Tester (inc)   190,809   48.22%

Park County (all), Yellowstone (3 precincts), Gallatin (1 precinct), Cascade (2 precincts) withstanding
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« Reply #267 on: November 07, 2018, 06:08:39 AM »

On Decision Desk, 96.26% reporting.
Matt Rosendale   193,479   48.90%   
Jon Tester (inc)   190,809   48.22%

Park County (all), Yellowstone (3 precincts), Gallatin (1 precinct), Cascade (2 precincts) withstanding

Yea, Weird. Decision Desk & NYT are not matching at all.

NYT is @ 82% reporting & Rosendale ahead by 2200 votes with only 23 out of 52 precincts reporting in Missoula. And Tester up 19.8/10.3 (ahead by 7.7K votes with 45% of Missoula in).

DD has Missoula @ 100% with same vote tallies ( 19.8/10.3). So one of them is obviously wrong.

If NYT is right, then Tester can make up 7-8K votes easily in Missoula & is 2K odd down. So who knows who is right.

Sinema has lost by 12K Votes. Nelson by 39K. So all close race seem to go GOP way !
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« Reply #268 on: November 07, 2018, 06:14:24 AM »

Rosendale only up by ~1,100 according to CNN.

Assuming CNN's results are accurate (big assumption), all of the remaining vote is in the Tester counties of Missoula, Cascade, Gallatin, and Park, so he should narrowly squeak by. I'd feel more confident about saying that if CNN's site wasn't glitches galore this whole night.

CNN is showing 200.7/199.2 (Rosendale ahead by 1.5K) with 73% of Missoula in (19.8/10.3 -7.5K Tester). If only Missoula is left, Tester may sneak through but there are 3 different numbers about pending Missoula votes.

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« Reply #269 on: November 07, 2018, 08:39:02 AM »

Any ideas when the result is expected in this race?
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« Reply #270 on: November 07, 2018, 12:25:52 PM »

Well, Tester has pulled ahead now with 99% in. 2100 vote margin!
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« Reply #271 on: November 07, 2018, 04:26:38 PM »

Yeah, they called it for Tester. I guess I just remembered the Democratic counting bias in Montana being more consistent. Looks like his margin will be 2-3%. I'm sure MT Treasurer will love the upcoming #analysis about how #Populist Purple heart Tester survived in Trump country and is therefore a political titan with god-like abilities to win close races, LOL.
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« Reply #272 on: November 11, 2018, 12:18:57 AM »

Looks like Tester's fellow hard-workin', straight-shootin' #populists Purple heart in Chouteau County (where Tester grew up and has a farm) abandoned him. Tester lost the county this year after winning it in 2012. Cry
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« Reply #273 on: November 11, 2018, 12:25:58 AM »

Looks like Tester's fellow hard-workin', straight-shootin' #populists Purple heart in Chouteau County (where Tester grew up and has a farm) abandoned him. Tester lost the county this year after winning it in 2012. Cry
he still won in big sandy, though
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« Reply #274 on: November 11, 2018, 12:53:36 AM »

Looks like Tester's fellow hard-workin', straight-shootin' #populists Purple heart in Chouteau County (where Tester grew up and has a farm) abandoned him. Tester lost the county this year after winning it in 2012. Cry

That's okay, he made up for it with neoliberal corporatists in Bozeman who loved Denny Rehberg. Smiley
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