Based on IQ, have we moved from the dumbest president ever, to the smartest?
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2016, 08:25:06 PM »

I don't like the op's set up of this, but
when you look at the brain power required in figuring out important things, predicting events / outcomes, etc.  Than Donald Trump has already surpassed (by a wide margin) Obama in a very short time. 
Not sure what this should be called.  Perhaps "Critical Thinking" instead of IQ ? ? ?

The guy has been so unbelievably prescient, from the Kate Steinle murder, to predicting a terrorist attack in Brussels Belgium, etc etc etc. 

Again, Trump is almost a prophet in how prescient he is. 

Obama has never really predicted anything, identified an important problem, solved anything, etc. 

So, I guess in this sense the OP may be correct. 
We'll see. 
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2016, 08:45:15 PM »
« Edited: November 20, 2016, 08:59:09 PM by Lincoln Republican »

Obama is clearly gifted and he is brilliant.

Near the top of his Harvard Law class.

I do not know how anybody could doubt his superior intelligence.

And Trump is smart, but hardly the smartest.

The implication in the OP question is absolutely ridiculous.
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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2016, 09:15:53 PM »

We can probably all agree Trump is a Self-actualized person and Obama is not.  Or Trump is much more so than Obama. 

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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2016, 10:53:59 PM »


to predicting a terrorist attack in Brussels Belgium, etc etc etc. 

Again, Trump is almost a prophet in how prescient he is. 


Who could ever predict an attack on Brussels, the Capital of Europe, the seat of of the European Commission, Council of the European Union, European Council, and European Parliament.?
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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2016, 11:03:24 PM »


to predicting a terrorist attack in Brussels Belgium, etc etc etc. 

Again, Trump is almost a prophet in how prescient he is. 


Who could ever predict an attack on Brussels, the Capital of Europe, the seat of of the European Commission, Council of the European Union, European Council, and European Parliament.?
Lets list all of the people who said the Muslim population living in Brussels would be responsible for a terrorist attack in the month prior to it happening.   
o yea that was Trump alone.
Let's think about all of the people that said he was crazy, racist, xenophobic, "unfit, un-presidential, ill-tempered, etc for saying it... O yea everyone said that. 
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« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2016, 02:34:43 AM »

Oh goodness. Here I was thinking this might have been a funny article from 2008.

Alt-Right? More like Alt-Reality.
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« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2016, 12:28:26 PM »

2/10 trolling imo
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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2016, 12:50:08 PM »

ranking intelligence of Presidents in my lifetime:
1. Clinton
2. Obama
3. Carter
4. Nixon
5. GHW Bush
6. Johnson
7. GW Bush
8. Ford
9. Trump
10. Reagan

scientifically determined
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2017, 06:49:00 AM »

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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2017, 12:04:02 PM »

Empty quote this if u think that le "president" Barack HUSSEIN oBUMMER is not smart!!!1
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2017, 12:19:49 PM »


When I saw this was a bump, I thought you were bumping a thread from 2008/9.
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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2017, 03:06:53 PM »

in more serious news, how about we compare greatest change from really good/great pres to really bad/horrible pres, vice versa.

quincy adams/jackson?

buchanan/lincoln

lincoln/johnson

wilson/harding

hoover/roosevelt

carter/reagan

clinton/bush

bush/obama

obama/trump
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« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2017, 03:39:21 PM »

All of this depends on your definition of "smart" and "dumb", of course. Politically, George W. Bush was pretty damn smart, and got much of his agenda passed. Obama struggled a lot in that regard, though yes, he operated under rather unfavorable circumstances (not to mention, arguably unprecedented - at least in its intensity, consistency, and cynicism - Republican opposition). As for Trump...lmao.
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« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2017, 07:05:38 PM »

in more serious news, how about we compare greatest change from really good/great pres to really bad/horrible pres, vice versa.

quincy adams/jackson?

buchanan/lincoln

lincoln/johnson

wilson/harding

hoover/roosevelt

carter/reagan

clinton/bush

bush/obama

obama/trump

Agreed mostly except I would imagine you mean Wilson and Harding the opposite that I do. Harding was elected in a landslide to turn around Wilsons mess and did just that. As to the OP, I would say Obama is more intelligent than Trump, although Trump is not as stupid as his tweets and sound bites make him out to be. If nothing else he is at least cunning.
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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2017, 10:27:08 PM »

in more serious news, how about we compare greatest change from really good/great pres to really bad/horrible pres, vice versa.

quincy adams/jackson?

buchanan/lincoln

lincoln/johnson

wilson/harding

hoover/roosevelt

carter/reagan

clinton/bush

bush/obama

obama/trump

Agreed mostly except I would imagine you mean Wilson and Harding the opposite that I do. Harding was elected in a landslide to turn around Wilsons mess and did just that. As to the OP, I would say Obama is more intelligent than Trump, although Trump is not as stupid as his tweets and sound bites make him out to be. If nothing else he is at least cunning.

Admittedly I know very little about who Wilson and Harding were as people, but I was just going off an assumption that the guy with the glasses who created the League of Nations was smarter than the corrupt, dick-naming guy.
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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2017, 12:07:45 AM »

*peeks into the 2016 board to see if it's still terrible *

Y I K E S

*slowly backs out of the 2016 board *
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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2017, 06:42:20 AM »

Wilson was extremely intelligent, but morally dodgy (major segregationist and as a historian was a product of the Confederate apologist school) and pretty mediocre in office (in particular he had one of the worst second terms ever what with the Palmer Raids, the botching of WW1 and the fact that he practically died halfway through). Harding was pretty dim and really not good at all, but he at least opposed lynching and freed Debs.
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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2017, 07:24:04 AM »

I would say the smartest President ever would be Madison.
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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2017, 02:42:45 PM »

in more serious news, how about we compare greatest change from really good/great pres to really bad/horrible pres, vice versa.

quincy adams/jackson?

buchanan/lincoln

lincoln/johnson

wilson/harding

hoover/roosevelt

carter/reagan

clinton/bush

bush/obama

obama/trump

Agreed mostly except I would imagine you mean Wilson and Harding the opposite that I do. Harding was elected in a landslide to turn around Wilsons mess and did just that. As to the OP, I would say Obama is more intelligent than Trump, although Trump is not as stupid as his tweets and sound bites make him out to be. If nothing else he is at least cunning.

Admittedly I know very little about who Wilson and Harding were as people, but I was just going off an assumption that the guy with the glasses who created the League of Nations was smarter than the corrupt, dick-naming guy.

I meant that in response to the post which said great/ bad presidents. Wilson was probably an intelligent fellow.
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