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« on: November 25, 2016, 12:32:54 PM »

As votes continue to be counted and random votes "pop up", what do we think the chances are that suddenly another 10k votes for Clinton just pop up randomly in MI, or another 30K in WI?

Clearly, America has a lot of work to do with counting votes and certification.  This entire ordeal is just embarrassing and it definitely raises questions about the authenticity of the counts and the results. 

I'm not even asking my question concerning the Jill Stein issue, but in general.  I voted for Johnson in this race, but it's interesting how even outside of CA's ridiculously slow and embarrassing count, that the Trump lead seems to narrow in almost all these states where the count keeps coming in.

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2016, 12:39:52 PM »

I think MI certified already.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2016, 12:52:24 PM »


That's almost correct:

During the last week, every county in MI reviewed their results and certified them.

The state will certify the results on Monday, but nothing will change really.

So, I don't understand what a recount would bring to light that the county reviews have not shown already ... A recount in MI is therefore pretty meaningless.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2016, 01:30:16 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2016, 01:49:16 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2016, 02:33:31 PM »

I doubt it will happen.

If it did, the legitimacy of the election would be in question.  There would be a WORLDWIDE hue and cry.  And, perhaps, deservedly so.  We have made much of lecturing other nations about their elections, have we not?
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2016, 04:12:53 PM »

A lot of the really late counts, like the Ohio stuff today, are provisional ballots that the state has to individually examine and decide whether or not the voter was a legal voter or not. By definition those votes can't be counted immediately on election day.

EDIT: Provisional ballots usually overwhelmingly favor Dems.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2016, 05:02:05 PM »

It is highly, highly unlikely that anything will change.

I don't think most people wanting the recount think there is even a remote possibility that they will actually change the results.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2016, 10:01:23 PM »

It's possible one of them flips but unlikely that anything will flip the election to Clinton.  Unfortunately.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2016, 10:14:43 PM »

Wisconsin and Michigan staying blue would be nice. I dont expect either to switch though.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2016, 12:29:38 AM »

We so conveniently forget how tight NH is too. It's like NM in 2000.  So many forget that in terms of raw vote, NM was the tightest state that year, not FL, but because the race came down to which way FL went, nobody gave two you know whats about NM.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2016, 05:59:25 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2016, 08:11:16 AM »

PA: 0%
MI: 0%
WI: <1%
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