OH: More Money Stuff (August)

[SamTilden2020]

I hope Cordray loses, just so y'all don't see TD as an all-knowing Election God.

[Rjjr77]

i actually do think there is a chance Cordray doesn't win the primary. It'll be interesting to say the least

[BuckeyeNut]

i actually do think there is a chance Cordray doesn't win the primary. It'll be interesting to say the least

What's the path you're seeing? I'm assuming no one drops out -- aside from O'Neill -- and a split field all but guarantees Cordray's nomination.

[PragmaticPopulist]

Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

[BuckeyeNut]

Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

Cordray only lost by a point against DeWine because there was a Constitution and a Libertarian party candidate who both claimed ~3% of the vote. Cordray's okay, but he's not some white knight who is going to save Ohio, and there's no reason to think he'll play better in the Appalachian Southeast than the average Democrat.

[Rjjr77]

i actually do think there is a chance Cordray doesn't win the primary. It'll be interesting to say the least

What's the path you're seeing? I'm assuming no one drops out -- aside from O'Neill -- and a split field all but guarantees Cordray's nomination.

If Sutton/Schaivoni combine it could cause problems for Cordray

[BuckeyeNut]

i actually do think there is a chance Cordray doesn't win the primary. It'll be interesting to say the least

What's the path you're seeing? I'm assuming no one drops out -- aside from O'Neill -- and a split field all but guarantees Cordray's nomination.

If Sutton/Schaivoni combine it could cause problems for Cordray

The odds of that seem super low. If anything, Sutton joining Cordray's ticket seems more likely. (Remember, the filing deadline is in early February.) Though, that said, I agree Sutton/Schiavoni would be strong. IIRC, ~40% of Ohio's Democratic primary voters live in NEOH, and between the two of them, they'd clean up well.

[Pericles]

The anti-Cordray hate is disgusting. Republicans are already trying to smear him for fighting for consumers and Main Street against them and Wall Street IN WASHINGTON DC(OOOGA BOOGA!!!). But Cordray is great and will be a great Governor, maybe even a future President(Warren's successor?)

[henster]

The announcement video seemed pretty... flat.

[BuckeyeNut]

The announcement video seemed pretty... flat.

What I've been saying, folks. But Ohio has a lot of low energy politicians, and that includes DeWine.

[Rjjr77]

Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

Cordray is going to get beaten to a bloody pulp in Appalachia. Appalachia Ohio is gone to the dems completely. If he regains the losses along the lake and in Mahoning valley while holding D gains in Columbus suburbs and Hamilton county he'll win, but the ohio Appalachia dem coalition is dead and buried under mountains of coal and fracking materials.

[Rjjr77]

The announcement video seemed pretty... flat.

What I've been saying, folks. But Ohio has a lot of low energy politicians, and that includes DeWine.

The only high energy folks in this field (aside from the occasionally hilarious mary taylor quip) were Husted (now gone) and the too green Nan Whaley. Schiavoni has a competent star quality to him, but he's not going to whip the crowd into a frenzy anytime soon.

[BuckeyeNut]

Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

Cordray is going to get beaten to a bloody pulp in Appalachia. Appalachia Ohio is gone to the dems completely. If he regains the losses along the lake and in Mahoning valley while holding D gains in Columbus suburbs and Hamilton county he'll win, but the ohio Appalachia dem coalition is dead and buried under mountains of coal and fracking materials.

I wouldn't be quite so sure it's dead forever, especially post-Obama. Though I doubt it turns up for Cordray. Lou Gentile kept it close out there last year, despite utter destruction at the top of the ticket, and Zack Space is going into the Auditor's race with the United Mine Worker's support as something of a pro-coal Democrat. Gentile also had the UMW on his side, IIRC. Just not Strickland.

[Thunderbird is the word]

Proof of Cordray being an absolute bore.

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I know a lot of people have a boner for life imitating art re: TD's timeline, but it's highly unlikely.

Looking forward to bumping this on January 20, 2025

[brucejoel99]

Proof of Cordray being an absolute bore.

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I know a lot of people have a boner for life imitating art re: TD's timeline, but it's highly unlikely.

Looking forward to bumping this on January 20, 2025

Me too but not looking forward to the continued Trump/Pence presidencies through then lol

[Rjjr77]

Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

Cordray is going to get beaten to a bloody pulp in Appalachia. Appalachia Ohio is gone to the dems completely. If he regains the losses along the lake and in Mahoning valley while holding D gains in Columbus suburbs and Hamilton county he'll win, but the ohio Appalachia dem coalition is dead and buried under mountains of coal and fracking materials.

I wouldn't be quite so sure it's dead forever, especially post-Obama. Though I doubt it turns up for Cordray. Lou Gentile kept it close out there last year, despite utter destruction at the top of the ticket, and Zack Space is going into the Auditor's race with the United Mine Worker's support as something of a pro-coal Democrat. Gentile also had the UMW on his side, IIRC. Just not Strickland.

Gentile saw a 10 point swing in his district, and lost by over 5 points. Zack Space can get carried by the ticket and may do slightly better down there but even then hes going to lose there.

[BuckeyeNut]

Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

Cordray is going to get beaten to a bloody pulp in Appalachia. Appalachia Ohio is gone to the dems completely. If he regains the losses along the lake and in Mahoning valley while holding D gains in Columbus suburbs and Hamilton county he'll win, but the ohio Appalachia dem coalition is dead and buried under mountains of coal and fracking materials.

I wouldn't be quite so sure it's dead forever, especially post-Obama. Though I doubt it turns up for Cordray. Lou Gentile kept it close out there last year, despite utter destruction at the top of the ticket, and Zack Space is going into the Auditor's race with the United Mine Worker's support as something of a pro-coal Democrat. Gentile also had the UMW on his side, IIRC. Just not Strickland.

Gentile saw a 10 point swing in his district, and lost by over 5 points. Zack Space can get carried by the ticket and may do slightly better down there but even then hes going to lose there.

Gentile won the 30th with 52% of the vote in 2012 as Obama lost it with ~48% of the vote, and then lost it with 47% of the vote as Clinton lost it with ~33% of the vote. (Closer to a 15 point swing.) Lou lost, but his showing proves the right kind of Democrat can still do well down there, especially with proper investment. Do I expect the Democrats to start winning in Meigs County? Hell no. Can we make Belmont, Jefferson, and Monroe Counties competitive again? We damn well better.

Proof of Cordray being an absolute bore.

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I know a lot of people have a boner for life imitating art re: TD's timeline, but it's highly unlikely.

Looking forward to bumping this on January 20, 2025

If Cordray loses, I'm right. If he wins, we've got a Democratic governor. It's a win-win situation for me.

[Usili]

So apparently with Cordray starting off his campaign in Cincinnati, both P.G. Sittenfeld and Aftab Pureval have endorsed him for Governor, with former Representative Steve Driehaus also endorsing him.

[BuckeyeNut]

He's also earned Warren's endorsement.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

YES. Now we have a bunch of good dems running. I'd be fine with him, Schiavoni, Pillich, or Sutton.

[King Lear]

I hope Richard cordray wins, he would make a great governor for Ohio and as TD has gone into, would make a great presidential nominee once trumps off the ballot. I believe he has overwhelming odds to be the gobernatorial nominee his biggest hurdle will be winning the governorship in a state that’s trending fast to the republicans.

[IceSpear]

Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

Cordray is going to get beaten to a bloody pulp in Appalachia. Appalachia Ohio is gone to the dems completely. If he regains the losses along the lake and in Mahoning valley while holding D gains in Columbus suburbs and Hamilton county he'll win, but the ohio Appalachia dem coalition is dead and buried under mountains of coal and fracking materials.

Preach.

[Usili]

So uh, apparently Cincinnati City Councilwoman Amy Murray is apparently supposed to be named as Renacci's running mate, with it being reported here: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics-extra/2017/12/06/px-amy-murray-poised-join-trump-aligned-ohio-gsets-her-sights-columbus-plans-jump-into-statewide-rac/928655001/

[Former Kentuckian]

So uh, apparently Cincinnati City Councilwoman Amy Murray is apparently supposed to be named as Renacci's running mate, with it being reported here: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics-extra/2017/12/06/px-amy-murray-poised-join-trump-aligned-ohio-gsets-her-sights-columbus-plans-jump-into-statewide-rac/928655001/

"Murray also had been considered as a running mate for both Attorney General Mike DeWine and Secretary of State Jon Husted. But Murray saw her chances of being part of an establishment ticket eliminated last week, when Husted dropped out of the governor's race to become DeWine's running mate."

I'm not familiar with Ohio politics: What makes Murray such an attractive potential Lt. Governor? I understand trying to find someone with Cinci appeal, but she's just a City Councillor and barely won reelection last year and previously lost it in a past election?

[Usili]

And apparently O'Neill is resigning from the Ohio Supreme Court to stay in: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/07/ohio-supreme-court-justice-bill/929930001/