OH: More Money Stuff (August)

[The Govanah Jake]

Kucinich's momentum is highly amusing to watch

Its only a matter of time.

[Dr. MB]

It's just one poll, but it gives me hope.

[GlobeSoc]

Dennis is a FOX news sellout, I don't get why people think he's actually a more progressive option...

If I was Cordray's campaign manager, I'd make an ad just showing various clips of Kucinch on FOX news.

[The Govanah Jake]

Dennis is a FOX news sellout, I don't get why people think he's actually a more progressive option...

If I was Cordray's campaign manager, I'd make an ad just showing various clips of Kucinch on FOX news.

Because of his policy's?

[GlobeSoc]

Dennis is a FOX news sellout, I don't get why people think he's actually a more progressive option...

If I was Cordray's campaign manager, I'd make an ad just showing various clips of Kucinch on FOX news.

Because of his policy's?

Maybe he genuinely believes in them, but I feel some doubt based on his history with conservative outfits.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Dennis is a FOX news sellout, I don't get why people think he's actually a more progressive option...

If I was Cordray's campaign manager, I'd make an ad just showing various clips of Kucinch on FOX news.

Because of his policy's?

Maybe he genuinely believes in them, but I feel some doubt based on his history with conservative outfits.

It’s common knowledge that he doesn’t...

[Blair]

Usual panic from someone with virtually no experience in internal Ohio democratic party politics but....

Is there any chance Kucinch could win? I assume'd Cordray would have both national, and state wide support secured, along with the money/organisational clout that bring. I'm hoping that Kucinch support is purely based on his name ID, and that he's doing this to make money afterwards, and remain relevant.

I would have been upset if they'd nominated him for state office in say 2010, but like the Democrats really don't have an excuse to run a pro-Trump/russian stooge in 2018 because 'muh porgressive'

[BuckeyeNut]

He could, yes, but it's unlikely at this juncture.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I see many people saying that more worrying that this poll is the fact that Cordray is running a very sleepy campaign. He seems to think that securing establishment support is enough to cruise to the nomination.

[The Govanah Jake]

Dennis is a FOX news sellout, I don't get why people think he's actually a more progressive option...

If I was Cordray's campaign manager, I'd make an ad just showing various clips of Kucinch on FOX news.

Because of his policy's?

Maybe he genuinely believes in them, but I feel some doubt based on his history with conservative outfits.

It’s common knowledge that he doesn’t...

Really? From all common knowledge that i can see Kucinich has supported such Progressive agenda's like Universal Healthcare, Non-Interventionism, Progressive Taxation, ext. If he is not genuine, i'm surprised he would hold such consistent views like this when a easier thing would be too change with the national opinion.

[Fudotei]

Kucinich is conservative in the same way that Tulsi Gabbard is an icon of the Republicans: they're not. Both are fiercely anti-intervention, and have been critical of existing military establishments and international realities in a way that mirrors Ron Paul's fanbase.

But that's just on foreign policy - which is irrelevant to the Ohio governorship. Here are some Kucinich policy statements from his site:

• "We must break the prison-industrial complex and stop the waste of hundreds of millions of dollars to warehouse low-level violators. The wasting of taxpayers’ money for the incarceration of non-violent offenders must stop."
• "We support protections for LGBT individuals and families that end discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations on the basis of (real or perceived) sexual orientation and gender identity/expression."
• "Reproductive Justice is the human right to maintain personal bodily autonomy. This is defined as the right to have children, not have children, and parent the children we have in safe and sustainable communities. The term, coined by Black women in 1994, was later developed into a human rights framework collectively by Indigenous women and women of color."
• "I will soon announce a plan, working with digital, utility and consumer advocates to establish a not-for-profit public utility in Ohio"
• "We must establish once and for all, as a moral and political imperative, the rights of workers. The right to join a union. The right to organize. The right to strike. The right to decent wages and benefits. The right to a safe workplace. The right to participate in the political process. The right to a secure retirement. I have upheld these rights for generations of workers."

Kucinich blows Cordray out of the water in terms of actually being left-wing. I think it's possible he wins the primary, and I hope he does, but the polling is inconclusive with so many undecided.

[YE]

It's not like Cordray wasn't the head of the CPFB, has a record of beating GOP obstruction there, or has been endorsed by Elizabeth Warren and has actually won statewide in the past, or anything. This isn't a senate race. As an executive of a state, you have to be pragmatic, especially since Dems aren't taking back the state senate and house anytime soon, and possibly govern like Obama did 2nd term.

[BuckeyeNut]

Kucinich is a lefty, but he's also a nutjob. And his work with FOX and Assad are pretty concerning to a lot of the Democratic base. Cordray's running as an economic populist but a social moderate, which is an interesting juxtaposition in today's climate. I stand by Joe Schiavoni but will vote for Cordray in the primary if it looks like Kucinich will be the GE candidate. Kucinich would be toxic to the Democratic down ticket, and our slate of row officers this year is the strongest it's been since 1982, when:

* The youngest State Rep. in Ohio history, Sherrod Brown, ran for Secretary of State
* Sitting Secretary of State, Anthony J. Cellebrezze Jr., ran for Attorney General
* Future United States Treasurer, Mary Ellen Withrow, ran for Treasurer
* Dynastic incumbent, Thomas E. Ferguson, ran for re-election as Auditor

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Kucinich is a lefty, but he's also a nutjob. And his work with FOX and Assad are pretty concerning to a lot of the Democratic base. Cordray's running as an economic populist but a social moderate, which is an interesting juxtaposition in today's climate. I stand by Joe Schiavoni but will vote for Cordray in the primary if it looks like Kucinich will be the GE candidate. Kucinich would be toxic to the Democratic down ticket, and our slate of row officers this year is the strongest it's been since 1982, when:

* The youngest State Rep. in Ohio history, Sherrod Brown, ran for Secretary of State
* Sitting Secretary of State, Anthony J. Cellebrezze Jr., ran for Attorney General
* Future United States Treasurer, Mary Ellen Withrow, ran for Treasurer
* Dynastic incumbent, Thomas E. Ferguson, ran for re-election as Auditor

This, except that I highly doubt Kucinich believes a word he says.  He strikes me as a con-artist in the Alan Grayson mold.

[YE]

Kucinich is a lefty, but he's also a nutjob. And his work with FOX and Assad are pretty concerning to a lot of the Democratic base. Cordray's running as an economic populist but a social moderate, which is an interesting juxtaposition in today's climate. I stand by Joe Schiavoni but will vote for Cordray in the primary if it looks like Kucinich will be the GE candidate. Kucinich would be toxic to the Democratic down ticket, and our slate of row officers this year is the strongest it's been since 1982, when:

* The youngest State Rep. in Ohio history, Sherrod Brown, ran for Secretary of State
* Sitting Secretary of State, Anthony J. Cellebrezze Jr., ran for Attorney General
* Future United States Treasurer, Mary Ellen Withrow, ran for Treasurer
* Dynastic incumbent, Thomas E. Ferguson, ran for re-election as Auditor

This, except that I highly doubt Kucinich believes a word he says.  He strikes me as a con-artist in the Alan Grayson mold.

How worried should we be that Kucinich pulls this off?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Kucinich is a lefty, but he's also a nutjob. And his work with FOX and Assad are pretty concerning to a lot of the Democratic base. Cordray's running as an economic populist but a social moderate, which is an interesting juxtaposition in today's climate. I stand by Joe Schiavoni but will vote for Cordray in the primary if it looks like Kucinich will be the GE candidate. Kucinich would be toxic to the Democratic down ticket, and our slate of row officers this year is the strongest it's been since 1982, when:

* The youngest State Rep. in Ohio history, Sherrod Brown, ran for Secretary of State
* Sitting Secretary of State, Anthony J. Cellebrezze Jr., ran for Attorney General
* Future United States Treasurer, Mary Ellen Withrow, ran for Treasurer
* Dynastic incumbent, Thomas E. Ferguson, ran for re-election as Auditor

This, except that I highly doubt Kucinich believes a word he says.  He strikes me as a con-artist in the Alan Grayson mold.

How worried should we be that Kucinich pulls this off?

I'd give Kucinich about a 5-10% chance given that it's not a clown-car anymore.

[BuckeyeNut]

LOL, just saw that Portune endorsed Kucinich for some reason? Politics is a beautiful thing.

That is kind of hilarious.

Samples could have a future in Summit County politics if she can break the Syke's stranglehold.

[henster]

Would be funny to see most of the candidates drop out for Cordray only to see him lose to Kucinich or barely win. Most of them dropped because they thought Cordray was unbeatable...

[Mike Thick]

Would be funny to see most of the candidates drop out for Cordray only to see him lose to Kucinich or barely win. Most of them dropped because they thought Cordray was unbeatable...

Would also be funny, in a kind of masochistic way, to watch the strongest row office slate in thirty years get dragged to double digit losses by Kucinich

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Would be funny to see most of the candidates drop out for Cordray only to see him lose to Kucinich or barely win. Most of them dropped because they thought Cordray was unbeatable...

Would also be funny, in a kind of masochistic way, to watch the strongest row office slate in thirty years get dragged to double digit losses by Kucinich

Maybe to a non-Ohioan with no stake in the outcome...

[Doimper]

A Kucinich win in the primary would set the OHDP back ten years. It's embarrassing and sad that he's this close to getting the nomination.

[Dr. Arch]

A Kucinich win in the primary would set the OHDP back ten years. It's embarrassing and sad that he's this close to getting the nomination.

Might be a good thing in Ohio.

[TJ in Oregon]

An Ohio Democratic Party that moved in more of a Kucinich direction would probably benefit on many levels, but Kucinich himself is far too flawed a vehicle to make that happen. DeWine would destroy him.

Then again similar things were said about Trump...

[BuckeyeNut]

A Kucinich win in the primary would set the OHDP back ten years. It's embarrassing and sad that he's this close to getting the nomination.

Might be a good thing in Ohio.

Not when we have the stronges slate of row officer candiates since 1982. We also have a very strong field of candodates for the statehouse.

[Blair]

Would the Ohio Democrats in this board even vote for kucinich in the general?