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MAINEiac4434
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« Reply #1700 on: May 10, 2018, 09:16:53 PM »

Kasich is such a showboat. He doesn't have any real positions.
He just refused to endorse someone because he holds a position.
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« Reply #1701 on: May 10, 2018, 09:38:17 PM »

Cordray will win
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« Reply #1702 on: May 10, 2018, 10:39:34 PM »

Kasich is such a showboat. He doesn't have any real positions.
He just refused to endorse someone because he holds a position.
It's all general posturing for an egotistical presidential run.
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« Reply #1703 on: May 11, 2018, 12:26:35 AM »

Kasich Refuses To Endorse DeWine For Ohio Governor Over Medicaid Fears

...but he endorsed Mary Taylor, who was openly promising to repeal the Medicaid expansion. (I get that nobody really believed he wanted her to win, but still.)
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« Reply #1704 on: May 11, 2018, 01:07:19 AM »

Kasich is such a showboat. He doesn't have any real positions.
He just refused to endorse someone because he holds a position.
It's all general posturing for an egotistical presidential run.

That may be, but at least he's intellectually consistent vs. people who posture by making mealy-mouthed wink-wink nod-nod (I wasn't really with the guy, but I supported him and everything he did anyway) endorsements.
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« Reply #1705 on: May 11, 2018, 02:46:20 AM »

Kasich is such a showboat. He doesn't have any real positions.


...As opposed, for example, to brave ideologues Rand Paul and Ted Cruz who always make bold noises and then vote with the party line.
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« Reply #1706 on: May 11, 2018, 03:37:54 AM »


FF. Say about Kasich what you want, he has backbone. He showed this already in 2016 when he refused to support Lyin' Don and attend the RNC.
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« Reply #1707 on: May 11, 2018, 07:14:50 AM »

Kasich Refuses To Endorse DeWine For Ohio Governor Over Medicaid Fears

...but he endorsed Mary Taylor, who was openly promising to repeal the Medicaid expansion. (I get that nobody really believed he wanted her to win, but still.)

In Kasich’s defense, he did that veey early one and it was customary. It didn’t become clear Taylor wouldn’t support his signature achievement until relatively recently. Though that said, I stil sometimes think he only endorsed Taylor as an act of sabotage.
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« Reply #1708 on: May 11, 2018, 12:28:48 PM »

Good for Kasich. I bet he doesn't like DeWine either.
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« Reply #1709 on: May 11, 2018, 03:07:17 PM »

Democrat Richard Cordray to John Kasich supporters: I'm your pick for governor

Don't really like the tack he's taking here, honestly.
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« Reply #1710 on: May 11, 2018, 03:11:12 PM »


Bad move. Republicans come home, Democrats stay home. Cordray would do better trying to bring turnout up.
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« Reply #1711 on: May 11, 2018, 03:24:43 PM »


Bad move. Republicans come home, Democrats stay home. Cordray would do better trying to bring turnout up.

I don't think he should focus solely on turnout; there's a lot of swing voters in Ohio, and you can't win with just "the base" here. But I think it would be smarter to try to reach out to Obama-Trump voters in Appalachia and northeast Ohio than whatever the hell he's doing here. He can win people in places like Franklin county and Delaware county without sucking up to Kasich (which turns off a lot of potentially winnable voters and doesn't win many new ones, if any at all.)
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« Reply #1712 on: May 11, 2018, 03:26:03 PM »

An article on that Hamilton county commissioner primary for anyone who's interested:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics-extra/2018/05/10/ohio-primary-hamilton-county-commissioner-candidate-surprise-victory/598336002/
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« Reply #1713 on: May 11, 2018, 03:54:42 PM »

Good for Kasich. I bet he doesn't like DeWine either.

DeWine is probably running a campaign of "I won't be a capitulating RINO like John Kasich", so I wouldn't be surprised if Kasich does not endorse him. He'd be endorsing a local politician that thinks he is the devil.
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« Reply #1714 on: May 12, 2018, 11:40:39 AM »

Good for Kasich. I bet he doesn't like DeWine either.

DeWine is probably running a campaign of "I won't be a capitulating RINO like John Kasich", so I wouldn't be surprised if Kasich does not endorse him. He'd be endorsing a local politician that thinks he is the devil.


He already did that when he endorsed Taylor in the primary, and his relationship with DeWine is much less toxic.
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« Reply #1715 on: May 12, 2018, 01:42:32 PM »

Good for Kasich. I bet he doesn't like DeWine either.

DeWine is probably running a campaign of "I won't be a capitulating RINO like John Kasich", so I wouldn't be surprised if Kasich does not endorse him. He'd be endorsing a local politician that thinks he is the devil.


He already did that when he endorsed Taylor in the primary, and his relationship with DeWine is much less toxic.

I love it when politicians and their second-in-commands hate each other Cheesy
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« Reply #1716 on: May 14, 2018, 08:49:56 AM »

(I'm Aware I'm a week late to the party)

It may be an internal but Jesus H Christ: https://www.scribd.com/document/378736368/OH-Gov-PPP-for-Ohio-Democratic-Party-April-2018-May-2018
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« Reply #1717 on: May 14, 2018, 10:58:51 AM »
« Edited: May 14, 2018, 11:36:18 AM by Lamda »

The Green candidate might hurt Corday's chances.
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« Reply #1718 on: May 14, 2018, 03:49:53 PM »


Bad move. Republicans come home, Democrats stay home. Cordray would do better trying to bring turnout up.

I don't think he should focus solely on turnout; there's a lot of swing voters in Ohio, and you can't win with just "the base" here. But I think it would be smarter to try to reach out to Obama-Trump voters in Appalachia and northeast Ohio than whatever the hell he's doing here. He can win people in places like Franklin county and Delaware county without sucking up to Kasich (which turns off a lot of potentially winnable voters and doesn't win many new ones, if any at all.)

He's probably trying to drive up the Democratic margin as much as he can in Central Ohio. Which, like, fine. Whatever. He's not winning Licking and Fairfield again like he did in 2006.
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« Reply #1719 on: May 14, 2018, 03:55:58 PM »


Holy Hell, how did I miss that???
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« Reply #1720 on: May 14, 2018, 08:26:43 PM »


Please, PLEASE Let this be real.  DeWine is freaking doomed if this is anywhere near correct, especially on Trump Voters.  If Cordray is flipping the Trump Voters in NE OH and Appalachia, as well as holding Hillary Rs in the Cincinatti and Columbus Suburbs, it'll be a rout.
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« Reply #1721 on: May 14, 2018, 09:50:28 PM »


Please, PLEASE Let this be real.  DeWine is freaking doomed if this is anywhere near correct, especially on Trump Voters.  If Cordray is flipping the Trump Voters in NE OH and Appalachia, as well as holding Hillary Rs in the Cincinatti and Columbus Suburbs, it'll be a rout.
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« Reply #1722 on: May 14, 2018, 10:52:18 PM »

I just noticed Wes Retherford was successfully primaried out of HD 51. Long time coming. Probably means the outside shot at taking that seat is nil, though.
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« Reply #1723 on: May 15, 2018, 05:05:41 PM »

Updated prediction map for post-primary. Currently, only one D-held seat isn't completely safe, and it's the one in Ashtabula County.



In my estimation, candidate recruitment was goofed in the 55th (Lean R seat in Lorain County); 92nd (Likely R seat just south of Franklin County); all three of the R held seats in Cuyahoga County (6th, 7th, and 16th); as well as the 5th (Columbiana County); and the 23rd (the one Likely R seat in Franklin County).
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« Reply #1724 on: May 16, 2018, 01:03:52 PM »

Updated prediction map for post-primary. Currently, only one D-held seat isn't completely safe, and it's the one in Ashtabula County.



In my estimation, candidate recruitment was goofed in the 55th (Lean R seat in Lorain County); 92nd (Likely R seat just south of Franklin County); all three of the R held seats in Cuyahoga County (6th, 7th, and 16th); as well as the 5th (Columbiana County); and the 23rd (the one Likely R seat in Franklin County).

Largely agreed. What's wrong with Phil Robinson though? I don't understand the Columbus area so I don't know what they like.

Side note, I like your new signature and generally feel the same way.
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