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« Reply #175 on: October 27, 2017, 07:17:46 PM »

Something to note is that the app only has the votes as they stood on November 9th. The massive amount of mail ballots that would be counted in CA and put Clinton up by a couple million are not all there, and Boulder county CO is still Democratic despite voting for Trump in the end. These are the most flagrant examples.
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« Reply #176 on: October 27, 2017, 07:32:41 PM »

Something to note is that the app only has the votes as they stood on November 9th. The massive amount of mail ballots that would be counted in CA and put Clinton up by a couple million are not all there, and Boulder Pueblo county CO is still Democratic despite voting for Trump in the end. These are the most flagrant examples.

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« Reply #177 on: October 27, 2017, 08:52:26 PM »

Something to note is that the app only has the votes as they stood on November 9th. The massive amount of mail ballots that would be counted in CA and put Clinton up by a couple million are not all there, and Boulder Pueblo county CO is still Democratic despite voting for Trump in the end. These are the most flagrant examples.

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« Reply #178 on: October 27, 2017, 09:27:31 PM »

GOP gerrymander Trump 439 Clinton 84



Both the northeast and northwest were hard to do. I had everywhere in the Pacific Northwest Republican except for King County, WA so to add that in I had to create a monstrous new Idaho which extends from the Puget Sound to central Oklahoma.

I was successful in getting rid of the Mid Atlantic, by adding the Washington-Baltimore metro area to the new larger Delaware, West Virginia, and Virginia (which I had to expand into Kentucky, NC, Tennessee, and Georgia). I still couldn't get the northeast so there ended up being one state in the NYC metro area, one in part of Connecticut, and one which includes Massachusetts and parts of Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. I did manage to create a Republican state out of parts of Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts.

California's counties are so large it's almost impossible to gerrymander a GOP state but I did as best as I could.
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« Reply #179 on: October 27, 2017, 10:40:58 PM »

And here's a 2012 map. Obama 472, Romney 41. It's the most outrageous in my opinion.

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This one was a bit easier because Obama won way more counties in 2012 than Clinton in 2016, but still it was impossible to get the Upper South and Texahoma in there.

As you can see, Washington is ridiculous. It goes from the actual state itself through Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, and ends up in Kansas.

Los Angeles also is now part of Utah. Missouri is absolutely crazy. And strips of land from Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Maryland extend all the way down to Tennessee.

Florida is my favorite. It's tame compared to some of the other gerrymandered states, but when you examine a bit closer...

Obama 4,703,041
Romney 4,703,037

That's a hundred times worse than 2000. And no, it wasn't intentional.

Surprisingly, I managed to get most of the Deep South as Democratic thanks to a larger Tennessee and a Democratic Florida.
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« Reply #180 on: October 28, 2017, 12:19:05 AM »

The best gerrymander is where democrats only win 3 evs.  This can be done by making the blue counties part of DC.  DC gets 3 evs only, even if it has 100 million people!  2 states, Massachusetts and Hawaii have to be completely placed into DC because all of their counties voted Hillary.  This is the most brutal gerrymander possible.
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« Reply #181 on: October 28, 2017, 01:47:45 PM »

The best gerrymander is where democrats only win 3 evs.  This can be done by making the blue counties part of DC.  DC gets 3 evs only, even if it has 100 million people!  2 states, Massachusetts and Hawaii have to be completely placed into DC because all of their counties voted Hillary.  This is the most brutal gerrymander possible.


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« Reply #182 on: October 28, 2017, 11:42:34 PM »

how did you upload the photos?
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« Reply #183 on: October 28, 2017, 11:51:24 PM »

I took screenshots and uploaded them to http://imgbb.com (it's a lot easier than Imgur or any other site because it takes literally 10 seconds, gives you the code right there, and you don't need to register).
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« Reply #184 on: November 02, 2017, 07:52:59 PM »

It's kind of fun to play around with it and create hypothetical states.


Mexican border counties – 7,301,356 population, 12 EV, 1,271,761 Clinton (58.6%), 784,511 Trump (36.2%), 78,829 Johnson (3.6%), 30,700 Stein (1.4%), 0 McMullin, 3,000 Other (0.1%), 2,168,801 Total


Canadian land/river border counties – 4,669,084 population, 9 EV, 1,061,010 Clinton (52.6%), 852,713 Trump (42.3%), 66,725 Johnson (3.3%), 27,862 Stein (1.4%), 2,075 McMullin (0.1%), 6,420 Other (0.3%), 2,016,805 Total
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« Reply #185 on: November 02, 2017, 08:23:37 PM »

Gulf coast counties – 14,195,337 population, 22 EV, 3,203,997 Trump (53.0%), 2,623,686 Clinton (43.4%), 157,133 Johnson (2.6%), 46,434 Stein (0.8%), 2,843 McMullin (0.05%), 12,160 Other (0.2%), 6,046,253 Total

Mississippi River counties – 10,841,756 population, 17 EV, 2,609,517 Clinton (49.8%), 2,335,728 Trump (44.5%), 170,222 Johnson (3.2%), 56,496 Stein (1.1%), 40,600 McMullin (0.8%), 30,612 Other (0.6%), 5,243,175 Total
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« Reply #186 on: November 04, 2017, 10:38:58 PM »
« Edited: November 04, 2017, 11:15:15 PM by BWP Conservative »


http://ibb.co/hFi3YG    same map as above but with color
the numbers on the picture are not accurate because of how the tool works.  The real electoral numbers are: 313-Trump   255-Clinton
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« Reply #187 on: November 07, 2017, 11:04:17 PM »
« Edited: November 07, 2017, 11:07:12 PM by BWP Conservative »

http://ibb.co/ivpaiG
most brutal gerrymander possible.  Hillary Clinton wins all of 3 electoral votes. 
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« Reply #188 on: November 26, 2017, 10:24:45 PM »

so what do you think of my new states?
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« Reply #189 on: November 26, 2017, 10:33:32 PM »


Where did the other six electoral votes go?

The most brutal gerrymander I could draw, with 50 contiguous states, was this:

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« Reply #190 on: November 28, 2017, 01:35:29 AM »



Consolidation into "super states"

Trump very narrowly wins in this scenario.

California – California, Nevada, and Hawaii
Carolina – NC to Florida
Cascadia – Northwest (includes Alaska)
Colorado – Interior West
Mississippi – Deep South
Missouri – Central region
New England – self explanatory
New York – New York, PA, NJ
Ohio – Illinois, Ohio, Indiana
Superior – Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin
Texas – Texas and Oklahoma
Virginia – VA, KY area

The swing states in this scenario would be Colorado, Carolina, Ohio, Superior, and Virginia.
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« Reply #191 on: November 28, 2017, 03:52:54 PM »

https://tinyurl.com/Superstatesdata
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« Reply #192 on: November 28, 2017, 04:11:50 PM »


CA plus HI is about 1/9 of the total number of electors. If you made nine contiguous superstates of about that same size, how would they vote?
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« Reply #193 on: November 28, 2017, 04:57:55 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2017, 05:14:29 PM by Southern Deputy Speaker/National Archivist TimTurner »


CA plus HI is about 1/9 of the total number of electors. If you made nine contiguous superstates of about that same size, how would they vote?
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WA+OR+NV+ID+UT+AZ+MT+WY+CO+NM+HI (removed HI from CA to secure sub-10% deviation from quota)
TX+OK+NE+KS
ND+SD+MN+IA+MO+WI+IL
AR+LA+MS+TN+IN+KY+WV+AL
FL+GA+SC
NC+VA+MD+DE+NJ
OH+MI+PA
NY+CT+RI+MA+VT+NH+ME
This is one way it could have been done ofc.
Clinton won 5 of these, and Trump won 4. The upper Midwest one with IL was quite close.
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« Reply #194 on: November 28, 2017, 05:11:26 PM »


CA plus HI is about 1/9 of the total number of electors. If you made nine contiguous superstates of about that same size, how would they vote?

I made no attempt to even out population.

I guess I could try in a bit, but I would probably end up splitting a few existing states if I did.  Also, I had 11 states on my map.
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« Reply #195 on: November 28, 2017, 06:20:08 PM »


CA plus HI is about 1/9 of the total number of electors. If you made nine contiguous superstates of about that same size, how would they vote?

I made no attempt to even out population.

I guess I could try in a bit, but I would probably end up splitting a few existing states if I did.  Also, I had 11 states on my map.

I was just curious as to how close one could get without splitting states. I picked 1/9 because the population of the US divides into 9 Canadas, following counties like this:



However, I'm assuming the superstates get to keep their their full number of EV, including all those due to Senators from the combined states.
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« Reply #196 on: November 28, 2017, 07:21:09 PM »

I wonder what the above's results would've been. Obviously, blue, brown, orange, and green Canada voted for Clinton, and red, yellow, grey, and orange Canada voted for Trump, but I'm unsure about white Canada. Of these, only grey and white Canada flip in a non-landslide election.
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« Reply #197 on: November 28, 2017, 08:52:32 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2017, 09:50:26 PM by Southern Deputy Speaker/National Archivist TimTurner »

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« Reply #198 on: November 28, 2017, 09:56:44 PM »

I wonder what the above's results would've been. Obviously, blue, brown, orange, and green Canada voted for Clinton, and red, yellow, grey, and orange Canada voted for Trump, but I'm unsure about white Canada. Of these, only grey and white Canada flip in a non-landslide election.

white Canada went for Hillary by about 12K votes. It's the only swing Canada on the map. The next closest was grey Canada which went for Trump by 750K.
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« Reply #199 on: November 28, 2017, 11:18:35 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2017, 06:31:48 AM by muon2 »

CA plus HI is about 1/9 of the total number of electors. If you made nine contiguous superstates of about that same size, how would they vote?
55: CA
73: WA+OR+NV+ID+UT+AZ+MT+WY+CO+NM+HI (removed HI from CA to secure sub-10% deviation from quota) (+AK?)
56: TX+OK+NE+KS
62: ND+SD+MN+IA+MO+WI+IL
64: AR+LA+MS+TN+IN+KY+WV+AL
54: FL+GA+SC
58: NC+VA+MD+DE+NJ (+DC?)
54: OH+MI+PA
62: NY+CT+RI+MA+VT+NH+ME
This is one way it could have been done ofc.
Clinton won 5 of these, and Trump won 4. The upper Midwest one with IL was quite close.

I've added the EVs and DC.
It looks like HI should stay with CA giving it 59 and 64 for the other western superstate.

Edited to add AK
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