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« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Matters very little to the public, to this race, or indeed to anything but his potential performance as Congressman, but Carmona had a VERY bad rep within the parts of the Bernie campaign I was connected to...

Interesting. Care to elaborate?
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« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2017, 10:01:57 PM »

Matters very little to the public, to this race, or indeed to anything but his potential performance as Congressman, but Carmona had a VERY bad rep within the parts of the Bernie campaign I was connected to...

Interesting. Care to elaborate?
I too would like to hear late-stage Bernie gossip.
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« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2017, 01:55:32 AM »

Guys, with about 15 Democrats and exactly 2 Republicans running, top 2 system may allow runoff to be an R-R even in such strongly Democratic district. What will you do in such case?))))))
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2017, 02:32:38 AM »

Guys, with about 15 Democrats and exactly 2 Republicans running, top 2 system may allow runoff to be an R-R even in such strongly Democratic district. What will you do in such case?))))))

You are truly ignorant if you believe that could happen in this district.
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« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2017, 06:08:42 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2017, 06:18:10 AM by smoltchanov »

Guys, with about 15 Democrats and exactly 2 Republicans running, top 2 system may allow runoff to be an R-R even in such strongly Democratic district. What will you do in such case?))))))

You are truly ignorant if you believe that could happen in this district.

Don't offend people you don't know. I am absolutely sure i am more clever and knowledgeable then idiot like you (but i never said that before you went personally against me).. If few more candidates will run (and it seems every week adds more Democratic candidtes) even D+30 district may go for 2 republicans getting 8-9% of vote each... It will be very strange, but, as usually, Republicans try to "play smart" running exactly 2 candidates, while Democrats (also as usually) "play it dumb"...
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« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2017, 07:43:15 AM »

Guys, with about 15 Democrats and exactly 2 Republicans running, top 2 system may allow runoff to be an R-R even in such strongly Democratic district. What will you do in such case?))))))

You are truly ignorant if you believe that could happen in this district.

Don't offend people you don't know. I am absolutely sure i am more clever and knowledgeable then idiot like you (but i never said that before you went personally against me).. If few more candidates will run (and it seems every week adds more Democratic candidtes) even D+30 district may go for 2 republicans getting 8-9% of vote each... It will be very strange, but, as usually, Republicans try to "play smart" running exactly 2 candidates, while Democrats (also as usually) "play it dumb"...

8-9% of the vote each???   Even Romney only got 14% of the vote there,  Trump got 10%.   Two Republicans splitting 18% of the vote would be quite a surge in support.

I think it's completely laughable you don't think any Democrat will get even 10% support in the district though.
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« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2017, 07:59:43 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2017, 08:27:55 AM by smoltchanov »

Guys, with about 15 Democrats and exactly 2 Republicans running, top 2 system may allow runoff to be an R-R even in such strongly Democratic district. What will you do in such case?))))))

You are truly ignorant if you believe that could happen in this district.

Don't offend people you don't know. I am absolutely sure i am more clever and knowledgeable then idiot like you (but i never said that before you went personally against me).. If few more candidates will run (and it seems every week adds more Democratic candidtes) even D+30 district may go for 2 republicans getting 8-9% of vote each... It will be very strange, but, as usually, Republicans try to "play smart" running exactly 2 candidates, while Democrats (also as usually) "play it dumb"...

8-9% of the vote each???   Even Romney only got 14% of the vote there,  Trump got 10%.   Two Republicans splitting 18% of the vote would be quite a surge in support.

I think it's completely laughable you don't think any Democrat will get even 10% support in the district though.

There are already at least 15 of them. So, even 90 can be theoretically divided into 15 parts 6% each. Of course - it was a stretch (and - a very big one), but when i saw how quickly number of Democratic candidates grows with every passing day, an idea that it's at least theoretically possible came to mind, and i threw it as a bait for partisan Democrats. The reaction was predictable - personal attacks (right now they even surpass ultra-right Republicans in this matter. May be - because they still can't reconcile himself with the idea that they lost an election, which, according to their own publications before November 8th was "in the bag"). Of course - chances for that are next to nil, but, frankly speaking, i would like something like that to happen at least once.. May be that would teach Democrats how to count and plan... 2 things they seem to be absolutely unable to learn....
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« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2017, 10:15:45 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2017, 10:21:46 AM by AKCreative »

Guys, with about 15 Democrats and exactly 2 Republicans running, top 2 system may allow runoff to be an R-R even in such strongly Democratic district. What will you do in such case?))))))

You are truly ignorant if you believe that could happen in this district.

Don't offend people you don't know. I am absolutely sure i am more clever and knowledgeable then idiot like you (but i never said that before you went personally against me).. If few more candidates will run (and it seems every week adds more Democratic candidtes) even D+30 district may go for 2 republicans getting 8-9% of vote each... It will be very strange, but, as usually, Republicans try to "play smart" running exactly 2 candidates, while Democrats (also as usually) "play it dumb"...

8-9% of the vote each???   Even Romney only got 14% of the vote there,  Trump got 10%.   Two Republicans splitting 18% of the vote would be quite a surge in support.

I think it's completely laughable you don't think any Democrat will get even 10% support in the district though.

There are already at least 15 of them. So, even 90 can be theoretically divided into 15 parts 6% each. Of course - it was a stretch (and - a very big one), but when i saw how quickly number of Democratic candidates grows with every passing day, an idea that it's at least theoretically possible came to mind, and i threw it as a bait for partisan Democrats. The reaction was predictable - personal attacks (right now they even surpass ultra-right Republicans in this matter. May be - because they still can't reconcile himself with the idea that they lost an election, which, according to their own publications before November 8th was "in the bag"). Of course - chances for that are next to nil, but, frankly speaking, i would like something like that to happen at least once.. May be that would teach Democrats how to count and plan... 2 things they seem to be absolutely unable to learn....

All but like 5 of those Democrats are "some dude/chick" level and probably will be lucky to crack 1% of the vote.     What you're talking about simply doesn't happen.

When Two Republicans get into the top two in a primary it's because a group of 3-4 big name Dems split the vote something like 20-18-10-4 or something like that and the Republicans come out with 23% each.  

That's exactly what already happened in CA-31 in 2012.   Gary Miller and Bob Dutton came out on top when the four other Dems all split the vote.   Since it was only a D+5 district there was enough Republican support for this to happen.

Splitting the vote evenly between 15 people is almost impossible.  And in a district like CA-34 there simply isn't enough Republicans to get into the top two, let alone "both" the top two.
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« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2017, 11:02:46 AM »

Guys, with about 15 Democrats and exactly 2 Republicans running, top 2 system may allow runoff to be an R-R even in such strongly Democratic district. What will you do in such case?))))))

You are truly ignorant if you believe that could happen in this district.

Don't offend people you don't know. I am absolutely sure i am more clever and knowledgeable then idiot like you (but i never said that before you went personally against me).. If few more candidates will run (and it seems every week adds more Democratic candidtes) even D+30 district may go for 2 republicans getting 8-9% of vote each... It will be very strange, but, as usually, Republicans try to "play smart" running exactly 2 candidates, while Democrats (also as usually) "play it dumb"...

8-9% of the vote each???   Even Romney only got 14% of the vote there,  Trump got 10%.   Two Republicans splitting 18% of the vote would be quite a surge in support.

I think it's completely laughable you don't think any Democrat will get even 10% support in the district though.

There are already at least 15 of them. So, even 90 can be theoretically divided into 15 parts 6% each. Of course - it was a stretch (and - a very big one), but when i saw how quickly number of Democratic candidates grows with every passing day, an idea that it's at least theoretically possible came to mind, and i threw it as a bait for partisan Democrats. The reaction was predictable - personal attacks (right now they even surpass ultra-right Republicans in this matter. May be - because they still can't reconcile himself with the idea that they lost an election, which, according to their own publications before November 8th was "in the bag"). Of course - chances for that are next to nil, but, frankly speaking, i would like something like that to happen at least once.. May be that would teach Democrats how to count and plan... 2 things they seem to be absolutely unable to learn....

All but like 5 of those Democrats are "some dude/chick" level and probably will be lucky to crack 1% of the vote.     What you're talking about simply doesn't happen.

When Two Republicans get into the top two in a primary it's because a group of 3-4 big name Dems split the vote something like 20-18-10-4 or something like that and the Republicans come out with 23% each.  

That's exactly what already happened in CA-31 in 2012.   Gary Miller and Bob Dutton came out on top when the four other Dems all split the vote.   Since it was only a D+5 district there was enough Republican support for this to happen.

Splitting the vote evenly between 15 people is almost impossible.  And in a district like CA-34 there simply isn't enough Republicans to get into the top two, let alone "both" the top two.

I know all that. And followed situation with CA-31. That's why i said it was a stretch, and big one.. But it would be an interesting thing to happen. Democrats are too overconfident frequently.. And  run too many candidates. An example - coming election in GA-06. Yes, district almost went for Clinton in November, but it's still leans Republican (if not Likely Republican) on congressional level since 1980th. What Democrats do? Run 3 candidates instead of 1, AND try to "anoint" as Democratic frontrunner very good guy, who worked for congressman Lewis. Yes, Lewis is a Civil Rights icon, but this district is still mostly white, unlike GA-05, and still mostly Republican. It acquisced with civil rights long ago, but hardly champions them. Will you REALLY say it's the best candidate in attempt to flip??? And such examples, where ideology trumps (sorry for pun) ciommon sense, are numerous..
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« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2017, 01:50:59 PM »

It's definitely possible, but it's quite unlikely. I direct you to my assembly district's primary results. There were two Dems, eight Republicans, and an independent. The two Dems got first and fourth places, but a Republican still got second (and then won the general). The two Dems got a total of 31.6%. If that was evenly split, the winning Republican would've still beat them for first (16.3% over 15.8%) and then won the general.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Assembly_election,_2016#District_6

Edit: It's District 6 since the link isn't going directly to the district.
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« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2017, 09:13:19 AM »

so uhhh... yeah, as I was saying.

As I said in a PM to someone, I can only really confirm the least s--ty stuff in here from a friend as it happened (taking credit for work, etc), but a lot of people I trust and respect are sharing this and backing this up.
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« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2017, 04:12:54 PM »

Obviously only smug, drunk Russian smolty thinks that Jimmy Gomez would get less than 10% of the vote. Dude really needs to stay on his side of the Bering Sea.
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« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2017, 02:20:28 AM »
« Edited: April 01, 2017, 02:51:14 AM by Shadows »

Lucy Flores, Our-Revolution board member & Bernie endorsed candidate for Congress spoke against Carmona's alleged sexist behavior. I discussed this in the Bernie - reddit (250K members) too & Political Revolution (the group managing the reddit) dropped Carmona from list of endorsed candidates. Grassroots.pb the phonebanking app have removed him from list of endorsed candidates for calling.

Nomiki Konst of TYT Politics has said that not a single senior staff of the Bernie campaign even attempted to defend Carmona.

Howard Dean's Democracy for America came out in support of Wendy Carrillo, another Berniecrat. Carmona's campaign maybe sinking as the Bernie supporters are deserting him ! Apparently dozens of people have come out in support of this story & people are saying this is the reason why Our-Revolution didn't support Carmona.

There's only a few days left & it will be difficult to shift all energy to Wendy now & I think Gomez & a Republican will make the run-off.
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« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2017, 03:52:03 AM »

This really should have come out sooner so that Wendy Carrillo would have a better chance.
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« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2017, 04:28:23 AM »
« Edited: April 01, 2017, 04:44:39 AM by smoltchanov »

Obviously only smug, drunk Russian smolty thinks that Jimmy Gomez would get less than 10% of the vote. Dude really needs to stay on his side of the Bering Sea.

Only smug and drunk California Democratic socialist "activist" would say that. Mind your own business, idiot....It was a wild guess, of course, but it was not mathematically impossible, so it was a legitimate guess. Enjoy your new President, who in many aspects it's even worse then ours, and "be proud" to be an "educated "sober" American"... I, surely, don't need your absolutely unsolicited "advice"...
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« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2017, 04:54:11 AM »

It's definitely possible, but it's quite unlikely. I direct you to my assembly district's primary results. There were two Dems, eight Republicans, and an independent. The two Dems got first and fourth places, but a Republican still got second (and then won the general). The two Dems got a total of 31.6%. If that was evenly split, the winning Republican would've still beat them for first (16.3% over 15.8%) and then won the general.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Assembly_election,_2016#District_6

Edit: It's District 6 since the link isn't going directly to the district.

Thanks! I know that's difficult in "strong one party districts", but, as long as it's mathematically possible, that could happen. When a number of declared Democratic candidates began to rise to almost 20 (not even 8, as in LD-06!)- as wild as it was it moved from "absolutely impossible" to "extremely unlikely" category... Normal people like you would react one way, fools - quite differently. Exactly what happened...
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