New Zealand Election 2017

[Sestak]

Alright, 20 minutes left. Let's make some final predictions.

I think he goes with Labour.

[mileslunn]

I am going to be contrarian, but stick with my prediction of National.

[Sestak]

https://twitter.com/henrycooke/status/920874288357314560

This is almost as intense as the floor reports from the July 31 healthcare vote.

[Vega]

He's obviously going to go with Labour.

[Sestak]

Well, its the hour.

Let's see.

[mileslunn]

He likes to play tricks so it looks like Labour, but he might surprise us like 1996.  Should know in a few minutes.

[Lachi]

www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/10/livestream-winston-peters-makes-announcement.html

Livestream of the press conference.

[JonHawk]

Stick with National winnie

[mileslunn]

Surprise no leak yet, usually these things are leaked to the media by someone before so he must be keeping his cards really close to his chest.

[Sestak]

Surprise no leak yet, usually these things are leaked to the media by someone before so he must be keeping his cards really close to his chest.

Oh yes. He may not have even told the leaders yet. (Or at least he hadn't until like the last hour or so).

[mileslunn]

Surprise no leak yet, usually these things are leaked to the media by someone before so he must be keeping his cards really close to his chest.

Oh yes. He may not have even told the leaders yet. (Or at least he hadn't until like the last hour or so).

Has he even told his own caucus at least?  My guess is he probably created a deal with both thus giving each the impression it was possible and then will choose the best of the two.

[Lachi]

lol@that one press guy who said 'smile you miserable buggers'

[Sestak]

Imagine if he just doesn't show up and leaves us hanging for like an hour and then says there's not going to be a decision today.

[mileslunn]

Imagine if he just doesn't show up and leaves us hanging for like an hour and then says there's not going to be a decision today.

That seems to be Winston Peters alright for you seeks maximum attention.  I almost wonder if it will be a blessing in disguise for whomever he doesn't choose.

[Sestak]

Imagine if he just doesn't show up and leaves us hanging for like an hour and then says there's not going to be a decision today.

He's 20 minutes late.

He might actually be doing it!

[Lachi]

one of the press pool just asked if the afternoon still had 4 hours to go XD

[Sestak]

PFFFT HAHAHAHA!

https://twitter.com/jo_moir/status/920879803766489089

[Lachi]

PFFFT HAHAHAHA!

https://twitter.com/jo_moir/status/920879803766489089

LOL

[mileslunn]

Could one of the leaders issue an ultimatum, either announce his choice in the next 24 hours or the deal is off and that might force him to stop playing games although he did this in 1996.

[Lachi]

Could one of the leaders issue an ultimatum, either announce his choice in the next 24 hours or the deal is off and that might force him to stop playing games although he did this in 1996.

wouldn't surprise me.

[Sestak]

Could one of the leaders issue an ultimatum, either announce his choice in the next 24 hours or the deal is off and that might force him to stop playing games although he did this in 1996.

That would take English and Shaw going into coalition talks.

(Which I'm secretly hoping will somehow happen)

[Lachi]

Could one of the leaders issue an ultimatum, either announce his choice in the next 24 hours or the deal is off and that might force him to stop playing games although he did this in 1996.

That would take English and Shaw going into coalition talks.

(Which I'm secretly hoping will somehow happen)

It won't, Both English and Shaw hate each other. I don't get why you endorse a NAT-GRN Coalition when it was never going to happen in the first place.

[mileslunn]

But wouldn't the Green Party pay a big penalty for propping up National.  I've generally found that when Greens prop up centre-right parties such as in Ireland and Czech Republic they take a big hit the next election.  So while a National-Green coalition is probably the most stable option, the Greens probably are avoiding it more out of political calculus.  The Liberals Democrats in 2010 in the UK would have been in much better shape had they not gone into coalition with the Conservatives, but the country would be worse off due to instability (One with Labour would have been Labour-SNP-PC-Green-SDLP-LibDems or at least most of these and much less stable).  Nick Clegg when he lost his seat this past June mentioned about putting the country ahead of party even though his party and eventually even he himself paid a big price.

[Sestak]

Are you kidding me? Live on Facebook??!! DID HE FAKE OUT THE PRESS?

[mileslunn]

Are you kidding me? Live on Facebook??!! DID HE FAKE OUT THE PRESS?

And will he fake out of the facebook live.  I almost would dread wanting to work this guy in government.