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Question: How would you vote in the Oct. 15 election ?
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G!LT
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For a small regional party
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I'd vote invalid
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I'd stay home
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« Reply #1650 on: October 16, 2017, 12:01:56 PM »

News on postal votes?
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« Reply #1651 on: October 16, 2017, 12:50:28 PM »

Postal ballots are counted today, but the results will only be published at 10:30 pm CET or later.

Ballots cast outside their original regional constituency (which are probably less than 100,000) will be counted on Thursday, hence the final result will be published on Thursday evening. Keep in mind that the demographics that cast a ballot outside their own constituency tend to be very different, often university students etc., so it might be wise to wait for them, even though they are very few.
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« Reply #1652 on: October 16, 2017, 01:03:41 PM »

Carinthia and Burgenland have finished their mail-in counts and their results definitely mean that the Greens are out of parliament.
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« Reply #1653 on: October 16, 2017, 01:08:18 PM »

Postal ballots are counted today, but the results will only be published at 10:30 pm CET or later.

Ballots cast outside their original regional constituency (which are probably less than 100,000) will be counted on Thursday, hence the final result will be published on Thursday evening. Keep in mind that the demographics that cast a ballot outside their own constituency tend to be very different, often university students etc., so it might be wise to wait for them, even though they are very few.

It is possible that counting in some districts/states resumes tomorrow, if the mail-in votes are not counted by 10pm.

Everyone is especially carefully when it comes to counting postal ballots this time, after the CC ruling last year.

Some 50-100k votes will be counted on Thursday anyway, like you said, so ... there is no hurry.
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« Reply #1654 on: October 16, 2017, 01:18:20 PM »

Even in the City of Linz, where the Greens got 24% in the postal vote last time, they crashed to 8% this time.

But the Greens need 8% in the postal vote in all of Austria to pass the 4% threshold.

So, if they cannot manage more than 8% in one of their strongholds ... they are done.
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« Reply #1655 on: October 16, 2017, 01:30:23 PM »

The seat projection has been adjusted, based on the progress in the postal vote count:

http://www.vol.at/briefwahl-auszaehlung-koennte-bis-morgen-dauern/apa-1438707478

The FPÖ will lose 2 seats because of the postal votes, while ÖVP and NEOS will gain 1 each.

The constitutional supermajority for ÖVP/FPÖ/NEOS (123/183 seats) could hold.
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« Reply #1656 on: October 16, 2017, 01:31:03 PM »

Tender, has an Austrian newspaper ever come up with a title Die k.u.k. Republik in the last 12 months? Tongue
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« Reply #1657 on: October 16, 2017, 01:33:32 PM »

Tender, has an Austrian newspaper ever come up with a title Die k.u.k. Republik in the last 12 months? Tongue

No, why ?

Kern & Kurz are unlikely to work together.
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« Reply #1658 on: October 16, 2017, 01:36:35 PM »

Tender, has an Austrian newspaper ever come up with a title Die k.u.k. Republik in the last 12 months? Tongue

No, why ?

Kern & Kurz are unlikely to work together.

But hey have worked together in the last 16 months.
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« Reply #1659 on: October 16, 2017, 01:36:57 PM »

Tender, has an Austrian newspaper ever come up with a title Die k.u.k. Republik in the last 12 months? Tongue
How do you guys say 'the die', if the first word was translated in German, but the second had to remain unchanged in spelling and pronunciation?
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« Reply #1660 on: October 16, 2017, 01:42:40 PM »

Tender, has an Austrian newspaper ever come up with a title Die k.u.k. Republik in the last 12 months? Tongue
How do you guys say 'the die', if the first word was translated in German, but the second had to remain unchanged in spelling and pronunciation?

I'm not quite sure if I understand your question correctly. Do you mean if we leave out an article?
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« Reply #1661 on: October 16, 2017, 01:51:07 PM »

Tender, has an Austrian newspaper ever come up with a title Die k.u.k. Republik in the last 12 months? Tongue
How do you guys say 'the die', if the first word was translated in German, but the second had to remain unchanged in spelling and pronunciation?

I'm not quite sure if I understand your question correctly. Do you mean if we leave out an article?
from what I understand, die=the. So it would have been 'die die'. Tongue
I am probably just one of those Obnoxious Americans straight out of National Lampoons... Tongue
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« Reply #1662 on: October 16, 2017, 02:11:45 PM »

Tender, has an Austrian newspaper ever come up with a title Die k.u.k. Republik in the last 12 months? Tongue
How do you guys say 'the die', if the first word was translated in German, but the second had to remain unchanged in spelling and pronunciation?

I'm not quite sure if I understand your question correctly. Do you mean if we leave out an article?
from what I understand, die=the. So it would have been 'die die'. Tongue
I am probably just one of those Obnoxious Americans straight out of National Lampoons... Tongue

We omit the English article. For instance, we say die Beatles.
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« Reply #1663 on: October 16, 2017, 02:14:06 PM »

For 80% turnout, we'd need exactly 798.000 counted postal ballots.

Not totally impossible, but I guess we'll just fall short of this big important threshold in democratic participation.

Probably 79.8% or sonething, which would still be +5%.
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« Reply #1664 on: October 16, 2017, 02:24:53 PM »

Is anyone else getting a Oceania-Eastasia-Eurasia vibe from the Austrian political system? "We have always been allies with FPO! SPO has always been the enemy!" repeat
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« Reply #1665 on: October 16, 2017, 02:28:19 PM »

Tender, I've got two other questions:

1.) Is NEOS' policy more like the Pirates' or more like the FDP's?
2.) Are Peter Pilz' political views (and that's his real name - wow) comparable with Boris Palmer's or Oswald Metzger's?
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« Reply #1666 on: October 16, 2017, 02:43:31 PM »

Only the postal count from Vienna, Graz and Salzburg City are missing.

The BMI results page has been updated to 4.87 million counted votes.

The 3 cities above will deliver another 220.000 counted votes, which means only 30-40.000 votes are missing for 80% turnout. That is possible for the Thursday count.
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« Reply #1667 on: October 16, 2017, 02:47:31 PM »

Is there any chance that NEOS will enter the coalition?
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« Reply #1668 on: October 16, 2017, 02:57:34 PM »

Is there any chance that NEOS will enter the coalition?

No, but they could vote with an ÖVP/FPÖ government for a constitutional deficit and debt brake, which all 3 parties strongly want.
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« Reply #1669 on: October 16, 2017, 03:05:00 PM »

So the SPÖ will win Burgenland after all.
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« Reply #1670 on: October 16, 2017, 03:47:17 PM »

Basically done now: ÖVP 31.5, SPÖ 26.9, FPÖ 26.1, Neos 5.2, Pilz 4.4, Greens 3.7

Changes on last time say everything: Greens down 8.6, ÖVP up 7.5, FPÖ up 5.5, SPÖ and Neos level.
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« Reply #1671 on: October 16, 2017, 03:48:43 PM »

Is anyone else getting a Oceania-Eastasia-Eurasia vibe from the Austrian political system? "We have always been allies with FPO! SPO has always been the enemy!" repeat

Yes; it's basically always been like this as well, or at least since the War.
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« Reply #1672 on: October 16, 2017, 04:00:12 PM »

Only Salzburg City's estimated 13.000 postal ballots remain + the count on Thursday of an estimated 30.000 to 80.000 ballots that were cast in another electoral district than the own.

Turnout stands at 79.2% right now on the BMI results page.

80% is still possible.
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« Reply #1673 on: October 16, 2017, 04:10:12 PM »

  So I'm wondering what accounts for SPO strongholds in some rural areas like Burgenland, parts of Styria, Carinthia, the Hallstat area etc while in other parts of Austria like Tyrol and northern parts of Upper and Lower Austria they don't do as well.
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« Reply #1674 on: October 16, 2017, 04:10:29 PM »

It is official:

The Greens have been obliterated by the Austrian voter and will not be represented in the next parliament.

There are some 50.000 votes left to count and the Greens need 17.000 more to pass the 4% threshold. Or every 3rd remaining vote.
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